I heard on the Ed Show a lady start talking about Jesus returning and the Rapture.

[RandomThoughts]

In my belief Jesus will return one day, and the faithful will be brought up to heaven.

But I do not live just for the rapture, that will happen as God chooses, and when God chooses, and since in my belief I will be in heaven with goodness and kindness, I am not worried about when it will happen.

I think an idea that Christianity is first about only going up to riches in heaven misses many of the teachings of how we can make the world and ourselves better till that time.

But when I think on the day that Jesus will return, I also think about his reaction to people that are beating and badly treating servants doing good works.

[BlooInBloo]

1. People who live for death are weird. All death cults are weird.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Read the New Testament

you are correct

The hour of the coming is only known to the Lord and the Lord himself.

(I know that, and damn it I'm Jewish}

People like that lady freak me out, since they really do not understand any of the core believes of their chosen faith, or the one they were born to.

And this is as close as I want to come to a discussion of religion...

<------ truly agnostic, best case.

[saltpoint]

3. I hope in the off-chance that Jesus doesn't come pretty soon that that woman

has a back-up plan.

[billyoc]

4. That's no lady, that's Karen Hanretty.

:rofl:

[DJ13]

6. And Ed said he wanted her back on tomorrow

This should be entertaining!

[billyoc]

11. Oh, great, she'll start speaking in tongues when her argument falls apart.

[tularetom]

5. God initiated the process that ultimately resulted in human life on earth

Then he/she bailed on earth and went on to other pursuits.

We are as important or unimportant to god as any other life forms here like say, termites.

And when we die we fulfill the same purpose, we become part of the food chain.

There is no rapture because there ain't anyplace to get raptured to.

We're very presumptuous to think we are somehow special or that we were created in god's image. We don't know jack shit about god.

That's my story and I'm stickin to it.

[RandomThoughts]

8. I understand that concept.

Faith includes trust, and I thought on ant farm doctrine also.

This is what I came out with, I believe because I choose to, because that is what I think is a better way. If it was actually ant farm doctrine, that would not change the way I would rather be, and it would not change me from thanking and loving the real God that in my mind is even above that ant farm guy from that doctrine.

If some force wanted me to live in an eternity in good, or bad, what could I do about it, really even in ant farm doctrine that same premise exists. So who I want to be is my choice, and how I want to think of what God is, and how God is worthy to love, is my choice also. Any supernatural thing that does not match the perfection of goodness and kindness in my minds is not the God I worship with love as God. Although I also understand the mysteries of God are beyond understanding. But within what I do understand I still get to choose.

:shrug:

Yes it is faith, and choice, but to me the one Almighty God is love and kindness, that is his spirit, anything else is just something to overcome.

So if your ant farm idea was true, I would just defeat that thing, but note I would hope and try to do it with love and kindness to respect what I think God is.

[G_j]

7. didn't the rapture originate with some Enlish dude

in the 1800s?

[juno jones]

9. Dunno if he was English

But as I recall his name was Miller. The Millerites (as they called what was then quite the heresy) sold everything and awaited the rapture on several different occasions, continually moving back the date when the previous one didn't pan out. They've been moving the goalposts for 150 years.

1848 was a very strange year in religious history.

Personally, I think the 'return' of Jesus refers to a time when humans evolve to a point where they have the understanding to be 'like Jesus'. I ain't holding my breath.

[TankLV]

10. Yes - the "rapture" is NONSENSE and has no basis in the bible at all...

it's the complete fabrication of the late 19th century preacher from England.

It's utter rubbish...

of course, that's assuming that the REST of the "bible" isn't ALSO a fucking fairy tale, too...

[DemocratSinceBirth]

13. The Word "Rapture" Is Never Specifically Mentioned In The Bible

But we Christians believe Christ will come again. The Bible is full of references to it.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

12. The Jim Jones death cult atmosphere that these people are

creating is a powder keg of possibility, I certainly wont be surprised when the next kool-ade drinking group wants to get a head start on the rapture and suicides themselves. Dangerous stuff indeed.

[Union Yes]

14. Please stop trying to pass religion off as if it's science. Religion is NOT science.