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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 11:21 AM
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AP Talks Hatch Act Over Christie-Rove Conversations
http://www.mydd.com/story/2009/8/14/10382/6109

AP Talks Hatch Act Over Christie-Rove Convos

by Jonathan Singer, Fri Aug 14, 2009 at 10:38:02 AM EST


This can't be good for Republican Chris Christie:

New Jersey GOP gubernatorial candidate Chris Christie's campaign said there was nothing improper about a conversation he had more than four years ago with top White House adviser Karl Rove about a possible challenge to Gov. Jon Corzine.

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Guidelines spelled out in the Hatch Act prohibit federal employees organizing political meetings or assembling campaign staff. The prohibitions also apply to preliminary political activities that set a candidacy in motion, said Erica Hamrick, deputy chief of the Hatch Act Unit in the Office of Special Counsel in Washington.

"Any kind of preliminary activity that leads to formally becoming a candidate can be considered candidacy in terms of the Hatch Act and would be in violation," said Hamrick.


Polling, both nonpartisan and from the Democrats, already shows the gubernatorial race in New Jersey tightening, so the specter of a potential Hatch Act violation cannot be a positive development for the campaign of Christie. While the special counsel's office no longer has jurisdiction over Christie, as he is out of the office of United States Attorney, this news could nevertheless be particularly damaging for Christie as it could serve to undercut the image his campaign has attempted to put forward -- one of a crime-fighter removed from partisan politics.
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 11:29 AM
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1. kick
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Hutzpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 11:31 AM
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2. K&R
anything to take the scumbag repugs down I'm for it....


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BattyDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 11:35 AM
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3. Oh please let this issue take him down!
I don't want him as my governor. :-(

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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 11:47 AM
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6. Me either....
...I've already sent Corzine money (not that he needs it).
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 11:40 AM
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4. Josh Marshall: Not Credible
http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2009/08/christie_not_credible.php#more?ref=fpblg

Not Credible
08.14.09 -- 12:03PM
By Josh Marshall


The Chris Christie/US Atty scandal story continues to percolate in the New Jersey press. And there's a point that's come up in discussions I've had with several NJ political watchers over the course of the week.

When Bob Menendez (D) ran for senate in 2006, after being appointed by Jon Corzine, Republicans knew that it was such a strong Democratic year that beating Menendez would be very difficult. And because of that they signaled early on that they would try to make political corruption the centerpiece of their campaign. (Remember this GOP allied ad from October 2006 with over-the-top caricatures of Italian-American mafiosos saying how Menendez was their guy? If you don't take a look. It will help give you a sense of the tenor of the campaign.) It's not too much to say that leaks about a corruption investigation into Menendez (what Christie eventually provided) was the one thing the GOP needed more than anything else to get their guy Tom Kean, Jr. elected and maintain control of the senate.

The broader national context is important too. 2005 and 2006 saw a raft of Republican political scandals across the country -- the Abramoff and Cunningham scandals being the most noteworthy, but by no means the only ones. And this proved to be a critical part of the Democrats eventual landslide in November 2006.

It was for this reason that federal prosecutors around the country were under intense pressure from the White House to produce and leak corruption allegations against Democrats in order to blur the corruption issue for the November election.

Now dial back and remember that Christie was laying the groundwork to run for governor as far back as 2003 and 2004 and had a series of conversations with Karl Rove to help him do that, both before and after Rove left the White House in 2007. So in 2005 and 2006 Christie seems already to have decided that he wanted to run for high office as a Republican and thus knew he would need the support of key GOP power players.

So put it all together 1) Pressure on US Attorneys across the country to cook up bogus investigations of Democrats to help salvage the 2006 election, 2) Christie particularly vulnerable to such pressure since not only would firing be a political career-ender but he'd need help from GOP pols to mount his campaign for governor, 3) documentary evidence shows that Christie was on and off the firing list over the course of 2006, though there is no direct evidence he knew this at the time, 4), Rove and Christie having a series of conversations during this period about Christie's desire to run for governor, 5) Christie's office leaks perfectly timed stories about a corruption investigation of Menendez, one that independent observers found iffy at the time and eventually produced no prosecutions.

It is certainly possible that it's all an unfortunate set of coincidences that unfairly makes Christie look bad in retrospect, knowing what we know now about Rove and Co's effort to use federal prosecutors to game the 2006 election. But the circumstantial evidence strongly points to the conclusion that he was one of those US Attorneys who 'did the right thing' to help hold on to his job. And his unwillingness to discuss the issue just makes it seem all the more so.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 11:46 AM
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5. he's a republican
"removed from partisan politics" does not register.
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lisa58 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 11:48 AM
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7. Christie should be asked why he WASN'T fired by the Justice Department
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 11:53 AM
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8. Corzine is doing a great job on Christie here with a heavy ad campaign . . .
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 11:55 AM
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9. I'm glad to hear that. CQ Politics has been writing Corzine off,
but they're also now admitting the race is tightening.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:24 PM
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11. Despite NJ being BLUE, there's a tremendous right-wing propaganda machine . . .
Edited on Fri Aug-14-09 10:25 PM by defendandprotect
always active here -- and I don't even try to stay familiar with NJ politics but
some of what's happening here breaks thru to me every once in a while . . .

My town supposedly still votes Republican ....??? Town newspaper obviously
Republican. When Repugs have control of Town Council you only see GOP signs during
election period!! When a Dem gets thru to the Town Council and you start hearing
something logical going on -- and start to get a bit of info about what goes on
backstage -- the efforts to dislodge the Dem are fierce.

Personally, I don't believe all of what I see here -- I think more townspeople want
Dem representation but Repugs are powerful here.

EVEN MORE ODDLY . . . on the national level tonight I heard part of the Ron Regan show . . .
and he had someone on predicting that Dems would have a big loss next election -- mid-term
tradition. Had to move on to do an errand so don't know how the discussion went on -- but
thought it strange that anyone would be predicting anything like that a year before the
next election????

IMO, if Obama could pull of single payer, Dems would be in power the next 20 years or more!
If they betray citizens again on health care . . . then I think anything could happen!

OTOH, even more weirdly, I heard from a friend who has been helping run the Green Party since
its inception here in NJ that he's left and the Greens in NJ are in very bad shape do to
leadership being held by a few who are incompetent.

NJ is politically very weird --


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DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 05:47 PM
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10. The radioactive fallout from BushCo* is like manna from Heaven.
Sales of Viagra (for Dems) must be down drastically - balanced by the 2x demand by Republicans.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:25 PM
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12. k i c k
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:26 PM
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13. Recommend
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 10:27 PM
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14. music to my ears....
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