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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:30 PM
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Did CNN fire Lou Dobbs or internets rumor?
I am seeing chatter about it on the web.


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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:32 PM
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1. Links - or you're just "internet chatter"
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Botany Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:35 PM
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5. But the link goes to a Chicago Paper.
CNN Finally Fires Lou Dobbs!
Hartford Courant - ‎18 hours ago‎
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meegbear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:39 PM
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9. Can you post the link?
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:32 PM
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2. I've seen nothing about it.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:32 PM
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3. If they did, he'll fit in perfectly fine at Faux.
He can be a side-kick to their king looney, Beck. He can be the Andy Ritcher to Beck's Conan.

Sorry Andy and Conan. It was the only comparison I could think of.
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:39 PM
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7. Or he could be BecKKK's replacement?
Old Rupert likes his advertising dollars slightly more than he likes reactionary reich wing bullshit. If Glenn starts bringing down the profit margin, even FAUX won't keep him around.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:34 PM
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4. One can only hope ...
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kirby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:37 PM
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6. Isn't he an executive of CNN? n/t
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:39 PM
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8. Well, that's odd. Google news for "Dobbs" and you get this:
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BooScout Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:45 PM
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10. It's a spoof....
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:51 PM
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13. No, it's not from that. See Google Cache link below
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:53 PM
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14. Well, it did lead me to an article about Lou Dobbs A Secret Single-Payer Socialist
The Nation: Lou Dobbs A Secret Single-Payer Socialist?

by Leslie Savan
August 13, 2009

Lou Dobbs is a strange man. One day he's railing against "Obamacare," stoking the birther and deather paranoia that an illegitimate president's health care plan will mandate euthanasia. Next day he's practically singing the praises of single-payer healthcare systems 'round the world.

It's kind of French of him, but last week, CNN's government-out-of-my-face bloviator began a monthlong, nation-a-night series to "learn from other countries' health care plans." He's already toured the single-payer systems of Denmark, Canada, and England, and the heavily regulated, public/private plans of Germany, France, Holland, and Switzerland. And, as if he were channeling Michael Moore or something, he's been rattling off stats showing that most of these universally covered foreigners are spending less on healthcare but living longer than we do.

Oh, sure, he'll occasionally exaggerate any weakness he can find—Lou's particularly eager to tsk-tsk over England's long lines. But overall, the series (reported mostly by CNN's Kitty Pilgrim), has been straightforward, like this look at Denmark, which could almost inspire a townhall mob to chant "Mandate, baby, mandate!" And tonight it's off to Japan! But, really, what gives, Mr. Independent? Have you gone soft on softcore socialism? Do you realize that you're actually making the "government takeover of healthcare" look pretty darn good? Or is this some kind of forced penance for spraying CNN with birther spittle, causing the network a "publicity nightmare," and, worse, sinking your own ratings?

On his Wednesday radio show, Dobbs as much as announced that CNN president Jon Klein (who's been publicly defending Dobbs against calls for his firing) made him do it: "We're pushing opinion aside. We're focusing on a nonpartisan objective reality that it is our job to cover," Dobbs declared, admitting, "I resisted this idea initially."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=111833816
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:54 PM
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15. Another late breaking news flash from the same site ...
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loyalkydem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:49 PM
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11. I know
he's been reprimanded by CNN for some of the things he done. But seriously, if they fire him. He'll be at fox noise in a few weeks.
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lsewpershad Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:54 PM
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16. Seriously
If CNN feels it really needs this clown CNN is loseing it.
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berni_mccoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 01:50 PM
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12. Google Cache Link:
http://74.125.155.132/search?q=cache:http://www.courant.com/news/politics/sns-200908131354tmsbpresstt--m-a20090813aug13,0,3769778.story

It's not a direct firing, but if Klein honors his word, then according to the author, Klein will be forced to fire Dobbs.

The article probably got yanked because the headline is misleading. Dobbs hasn't actually been fired (yet).

From the article:

It took him a long time, but CNN President Jon Klein finally got around to doing what he should have done a long time ago. In order to maintain the professed trademark of his network for objectivity in broadcasting, he realized he had no choice but to fire Lou Dobbs.

Of course, cautious as he is, Klein did not fire the anti-immigration crusader directly, or even alone. He threw Dobbs overboard as part of a vendetta against radio talk show hosts in general.

As first reported on the Website TVNewser.com, in a conference call on Aug. 11, Klein told his producers they should no longer book radio talk show hosts on CNN shows: not on "The Situation Room," nor Larry King, Anderson Cooper, or Campbell Brown. From now on, said his edict, no radio talkers will appear on CNN. Period.

Why? Because, argued Klein, radio talk show hosts are incapable of understanding or commenting on the important issues of the day. "Complex issues require world-class reporting," sniffed Klein. Not only that, TVNewser.com quotes Klein as complaining that radio hosts too often do nothing more than "contribute to the noise," and their comments are "all too predictable."

Klein's dead wrong, of course. Yes, we Americans do confront complex issues today, but radio talk show hosts like me, whether liberal or conservative, are more than capable of dealing with them. After all, that's what we do for a living. We research the issues. We explain them to listeners. We take listener calls about them. We talk about them, on average, three hours a day -- without a teleprompter. We understand the issues far better, in fact, than any blow-dried anchor that does little more than read a script, written by somebody else, for one hour at the most.

Now, I must admit, I was both puzzled and disappointed to learn of Klein's manifesto. Puzzled because radio talk show hosts have long played an important role at the network. "Crossfire" actually began with two talk radio hosts, Pat Buchanan and Tom Braden. Other CNN personalities of yesterday or today -- Larry King, Mary Matalin, Bill Bennett, Roland Martin, Glenn Beck, and yours truly -- hosted, or continue to host, their own radio shows.

I'm disappointed by Klein's decision because I enjoyed six good years at CNN -- as co-host of "Crossfire" and "The Spin Room." Since leaving the network (not voluntarily), I have jumped at the chance to appear occasionally as an unpaid guest on "The Situation Room," "Reliable Sources," or other CNN programs. I'm a big CNN fan, and I'll miss being part of it.

But my grief is more than outweighed by one giant consolation: At least, this means the end of that pompous, arrogant, and obnoxious Lou Dobbs. After all, Lou Dobbs is also a nationally syndicated radio talk show host. So Klein's edict -- "No Radio Talk Show Hosts on CNN" -- must mean the end of Lou Dobbs.

And it's about time. Dobbs contradicts everything CNN supposedly stands for. He doesn't just report, he pontificates. He doesn't just deliver the news he pollutes it with his own opinions. He doesn't even pretend to be in the middle of the road, he exults in being on the extreme right.

Actually, Klein missed two excellent opportunities to fire Dobbs. First, when Dobbs assumed the role of chief executioner for undocumented workers. No fine points about breaking up families or crippling certain American industries for Dobbs. If they're here illegally, they should be sent back across the border, all 12 million of them. It's the kind of daily rant you expect from right-wing FOX News, but not from "news leader" CNN.

Klein should also have dumped Dobbs for fanning the flames of the "birther" issue. Long after every serious news operation had dismissed questions about the authenticity of President Obama's birth certificate as totally whacko, Dobbs kept beating the birther drum on CNN. But, instead of admonishing him to stick to "world-class reporting," Klein himself said Dobbs was raising a legitimate issue.

Still, better late than never. We now know Lou Dobbs will be fired because we know Jon Klein is a man of his word. After all, he's the president of CNN, "the most trusted name in news." Surely, Klein would never ban all radio talk show hosts from CNN and leave talk show host Lou Dobbs on the air. Would he?

(Bill Press is host of a nationally syndicated radio show and author of a new book, "Train Wreck: The End of the Conservative Revolution (and Not a Moment Too Soon)." You can hear "The Bill Press Show" at his Web site: billpressshow.com. His email address is: bill@billpress.com.)
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Aug-14-09 04:31 PM
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17. In other words, no. Klein is not firing Dobbs.
He's just going to be a hypocrite and ignore the shouting.
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