Can this be interpreted as "assassinate Obama" message?

[AnnInLa]

Pardon if this was posted before, but I just saw it on www.oliverwillis.com

CafePress is selling shirts that seem to suggest a desire to assassinate President Obama? I looked around on CafePress, but couldn't find a way to complain about that particular seller (who doesn't identify himself/herself.)

http://bit.ly/11eHRW

[Dennis Donovan]

1. No. We used a similar statment w/ Bush - 8643...

[notesdev]

3. Shhh

Next time wait for the mob to gather on the thread and pour forth the froth before pointing that out! This thread could have had, like, 1000x the entertainment value.

[Trajan]

4. Who the fuck is 'we' ?

It is ridiculous to lump everyone together in such a statement ...

'We' did no such thing ...

[Dennis Donovan]

19. "We" as in DU...

:eyes:

[Trajan]

20. Yes .... We as in 'DU' always behave as if we were one single being ...

We agree on everything, and feel exactly the same about every point of every subject ...

That is why you can speak for me, always ....

Tell 'them' I said hi ....

[Dennis Donovan]

21. Do you feed and care for that bug...

...up your butt? Cripes, lighten up, Francis. :eyes:

[Trajan]

23. Expecting some precision in statements is rare, I know ....

But dont include 'me' when you issue sweeping generalizations from 'us' about one subject or another ...

I and most DUers did NOT do as you claimed 'we' did ....

[Quantess]

30. I never heard of it either.

[vadawg]

5. lol i just got it, took me a while to understand the 8644, thought it was something cryptic

might have to get the wife one of them see how long it takes her to figure it out...

[maglatinavi]

8. 86 44

I don't get it. Will someone explain? 86 = old?

[Swede]

13. 86 means murder someone, 44 means Obama (44th president)

not good

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

14. No, it doesn't. 86 means "remove," usually in the context of ejecting from a bar.

Possible origins here: http://www.snopes.com/language/stories/86.asp

[Maine-ah]

16. in restaurant terms it means you're out of something

ie 86 baked potato = we're out of bakers. Or ordered items.... baked potato 86 sour cream...means guest does not want sour cream on their baked potato.

[orleans]

27. and in theater when you say 86 the lights it means KILL THE LIGHTS! n/t

[Swede]

18. It's a slang expression,with many definitions,many often used to mean kill.

I don't think they mean throw Obama out of a bar.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=86

[yost69]

28. Oh so it went from murder to several definitions. Hmm

[cherokeeprogressive]

31. Here's the quote from the Designer:

Let the world know how you feel about the 44th President of the USA with this great shirt. Tell them it's time to 86 (throw out) the man who seems hell-bent on wrecking our country.

(emphasis mine)

[-..__...]

25. Maybe you're thinking of "deep 6"?

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=deep%206

[blondeatlast]

32. "86" means to throw someone out of a bar forcefully; I've never

heard of it in the context of murdering someone.

[orleans]

26. link?

i don't recall that at all.

[Hissyspit]

2. Well, it could just as easily be translated as impeach him and remove him from office, but

still disturbing in this climate.

[mia]

6. Checked wikipedia for current "86" connotations

None suggest assassination.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/86_(number)

[sunnybrook]

7. I used to work in the restaurant business

It was commonly used to identify items we were out of, or did not want to sell or whatever, as in "86 chicken salad." It definitely means get rid of, they are clueless at wikipedia, but it is vague enough to easily mean impeach, vote out or whatever, though it could be code for assassination. Hard to prove that intent

[donheld]

9. Looks like cafepress deleted the product

[AnnInLa]

10. Thanks guys, I am getting paranoid

about the safety of our Pres....and, didn't remember any 8643 message....and, don't remember that we suggested, in any way that could be interpreted as such, violence to gwb

[NYC_SKP]

11. I think your're mistaking "86" with "187".

"86" has a history of meaning "kick out" or, in this case, impeach.

"187" is a commonly used police code number for "murder".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/187_(murder)

I'd be very upset to see that number with "44" anywhere.

NYC_SKP

[parasim]

12. Why? For equating our prez with Maxwell Smart?

[Stephanie]

15. 86 is restaurant speak for "we're out of it"

86 the salmon burger, we ran out.

[Bluerthanblue]

17. it's from the address of a speak-easy-

according to :
http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=86


My Dad used to say "deep 6" that meaning to get rid of something. I also remember him saying "86" that to mean the same.

I don't see it as a blaitent "threat" myself.

"NO"Bama bothers me more actually, and always has- just because of the way I 'take' the phrase.

:hi:

[Warren DeMontague]

22. I think that's a stretch. It could loosely be translated to "Get Rid Of".. but that's not really

the same thing.

[asdjrocky]

24. 86'd means kicked out. Usually from a bar.

[orleans]

29. kicked out, get rid of or kill

in classroom or theater 86 the lights means to get rid of the lights or to kill the lights.