Do you think that men should have to get their wives' permission before getting a vasectomy?

[LoZoccolo]

It's the law in many states.

[atreides1]

1. But

Has there ever been a case of that law being enforced?

[LoZoccolo]

2. Enforced to prevent the vasectomy, or enforced to punish someone who had one without permission? n/t

[Posteritatis]

8. "As punishment, you must raise (rummaging in box) this orphan!" (nt)

[LWolf]

3. Of course not.

I think that law could be easily challenged. Why hasn't it been?

[Liquorice]

4. There are no laws like that. nt

[Strong Atheist]

5. !

:popcorn:

[Warpy]

6. That's crazy

It's his body.

Of course, if she's desperate to have children, that's it for the marriage, but better to end it over a vasectomy than make a man who doesn't want kids feel trapped.

[Peregrine]

7. I got it done while in the Army and I had to get permission from my then wife

Now this was about 20 years ago. But she had to sign a form. It cost me $3.60 (I was on separate rations, so I had to reimburse the Army for dinner). I checked with a civilian doctor and I wouldn't have had to get permission (Maryland) but it would of cost me $200.

[Warren Stupidity]

9. link?

I can get clipped anytime I want, no permission required. Please provide evidence that you are not just making shit up.

[LoZoccolo]

11. Certainly.

http://tinyurl.com/qdwedy

[Liquorice]

12. It isn't true. Here, this might help...

"It is not a legal requirement to involve both partners in the decision-making and consent process. There is a widespread misconception that a wife must consent to her husband undergoing vasectomy. If, against a man's wishes, his wife is informed of and asked to consent to her husband's vasectomy, this can be regarded as a breach of medical confidentiality and an infringement of an individual's right to self-determination (i.e. autonomy)."

http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1282203

[LoZoccolo]

14. It's in other countries though. n/t

[Liquorice]

15. Nope. nt

[Warren Stupidity]

19. cop out answer. nt

[Warren Stupidity]

16. Ok yes I know how and did google

now please provide evidence of a state or federal law that requires spousal notification for vasectomies. From my googling, and clearly yours as well, while many people have asked this question, there appears to be no such law and there appears to be a clear conflict with HIPPA.

Here is a nice link for you that I do not have to hide: http://www.vasectomy-information.com/wordpress/?p=501


There are no state or federal laws that require a man to have his wife sign a consent form prior to performing a vasectomy. This is similar to the lack of any laws requiring women to have their husbands consent to a tubal ligation. Some private health organizations have voluntary requirements to have the spouse sign a consent form or to have a “cooling off period” prior to the vasectomy. The only requirement for a man to have a vasectomy is for him to be of legal age, sound mind and free of any contraindications for surgery.


But please do provide a link to the state or federal law.

On a somewhat related topic: Why are people so prone to being jerks on the net?

[old mark]

10. Married men have to get their wives permission

before doing anything.

My wife told me to say that.

mark

[Strong Atheist]

13. !

:rofl: MAO!



:yourock:

[lunatica]

37. Well she's right

Smart woman!

[old mark]

42. She tells me that's why I married her -

she's smart.
She tells me that alot.....

mark

(She's partly right....)

[lunatica]

17. No. It's their body and their choice

[jmowreader]

18. It might not be the law...

but I called all the doctors in Fayettenam, NC, and Lumberton, NC, and none of them will do it without the consent of the wife. And then they told me about the $1100 they charge...so much for that idea.

[Liquorice]

23. Requiring consent from your wife is illegal. nt

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

27. You should report them to the medical licensing board in NC. Here is a link.

http://imp.ncmedboard.org/consumer_resources/complaint_process/

[Texasgal]

20. No.

His body, his rights.

[tj2001]

21. I think that men should have to get their wives' permission before getting some

that's about it

[Spirochete]

22. "Honey, I'm going to get a vasectomy now"

"That's good, dear. Can you pick up milk and tomato sauce on your way?"

I find it hard to believe there would be a law like that on the books, but I wouldn't be totally surprised.

[abumbyanyothername]

30. You're not using the rent money, are you? nt

[lunatica]

38. Just like I told ya to do two kids ago!

I'm glad you're finally getting around to it!

[BlooInBloo]

24. Everybody knows that anything having to do with reproduction is solely a woman's decision....

Pure hyperbole of course, but it seems like some folks think that sometimes.

[Buns_of_Fire]

25. Whether legal or not, it's a considerate gesture.

At the very least, the wife should know her husband's had a vasectomy before she tells him she's pregnant. I'm old-fashioned that way.:-)

[Fleshdancer]

29. HAHAHAHA!!!!

:rofl:

[TahitiNut]

26. There's a difference between "permission" and "notification."

It's my understanding that it could be grounds for divorce in some states if either party misled their mate regarding willingness/intent to have children -- or, subsequent to marriage, changed their mind. I'm guessing this is historically, at least, congruent with or suggested by Canon Law in the Roman Catholic Church whit, I believe, recognizes such a refusal/inability to procreate as legitimate grounds for divorce.

If I were (still) married, I cannot envisage a healthy marital relationship wherein there was not a 'meeting of the minds' on such a decision. At the same time, I'm opposed to secular/civil interference in such matters.

[Fleshdancer]

28. hell no

Just like a woman shouldn't need a husband's permission to get her tubes tied. I've known a few people who had a hard time getting these procedures done due to their young age or because they didn't already have children and it sickens me just as much as the concept of needing "permission" from a spouse.

[safeinOhio]

31. Wife signed, then filed a year later.

Now have atrophy of the testis because of it. Never, never get talked into it. Just my advice.

[Codeine]

32. It's not the law in any state. nt

[bermudat]

33. Nope.

I do remember when women could not get tubal ligations without their husband's signature. This was in the

early 70's. Also remember when a woman could not get a credit card without her husband's signature even if

she was the breadwinner.

[Warren DeMontague]

34. That's just balls-out nuts.

What a load.

[MercutioATC]

35. False premise. Medical ethics require it, not law.

...and they don't really even require consent, but the process encourages spousal involvement.

That said...no, I don't believe a wife should have to give consent (or even be notified).

[auntAgonist]

36. permission is the wrong word. A couple should

be in agreement and want the same things. IF that can't happen. It's his body. If he wants a vasectomy he should have it. I really think it takes discussion between the two though. Hopefully husband and wife are of the same thoughts and beliefs.

my 2cents.

aA

[seabeyond]

39. "permission"? no. discussed, abso fuckin lutely. i couldnt imagine a relationship

where something like that would be withheld and done without knowledge to mate. either gender.

[Pharlo]

40. As far as I'm concerned,

if a couple can't discuss this issue and come to the conclusion that it is his body and his choice, then the marriage has deeper problems than a vasectomy - making the vasectomy a really good idea.

[nini]

41. no, but a good marriage would make it a mutual decision

Ultimately, it's his choice though.

[Kingdom1979]

43. are you sure?

Are you sure it is permission and not mutual agreement?

[Monk06]

44. Come on guys. If your wife thinks you need a vasectomy I'm sure she'll let you know.