IT'S DISGUSTING- ALL OF IT- FUCK WALL ST., FUCK BIG PHARMA, FUCK THE INSURANCE SYNDICATE

[Orwellian_Ghost]

[crazy_vanilla]

1. their greed is beyond measure and they won't give it up easily

But we'll just keep trying.

[ThomWV]

22. The 'they' in "Their" are the generation of children us Baby-boomers raised.

[tomp]

23. you mean like bernie madoff and dick cheney, e.g.? nt

[bertman]

59. You beat me to it, tomp. nt

[malaise]

36. That's the saddest part of this mess

Hubby and I talk about this all the time

[xchrom]

2. shrug -- unless liberal/progressives ge as angry as right wingers --

no one will listen.

as of today baucus, reid and conservadems have won.

[rurallib]

3. Well we have a new candidate against Grassley whose platform you have paraphrased

his was a bit less - uh - profane but the very same ideas.

[stray cat]

4. Ok - so you make out with all these groups - how does that help the situation?

[Orwellian_Ghost]

6. I'm not the one

makin' out with any of these bastards. Never have, never will. Nor will I ever support any of the weasels who do capitulate.

What about you?

Now if what you were saying is how do we do without all these vultures I'd say pretty damn well and if you can't imagine that then your dial needs adjusting.

[maryf]

14. K and F'ing R nt

[Grinchie]

39. Amen to that. The utterly dependant can't think of a world without Corps

While those who have learned what it is to be able to provide for nearly every need with their own to hands watch as the resources, biodiversity, and space needed to do it are destroyed, never to return.

It really is incomprehensible that many people never travel outside their own state, let alone were ever able to travel the world and see other cultures that are now just a memory.

[SingaporeExpat]

56. kr

[MercutioATC]

5. One of the greatest signs of all time!

I LOVED that when it was first in the news.

[Individualist]

7. ...and fuck those who support them rather than support the people!

I share your disgust.

[maryf]

13. Break those supports and we might get somewhere...

some of the support is pretty insidious...have to read between the lines sometime...

[notesdev]

8. There's a song that goes with that sign

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yge311sFhC8

[earth mom]

9. Got to REC this! You are totally speaking my language!

Man, I've been feeling really alone around here today and then I see this thread! :woohoo: :applause:

p.s. Remind me to stay away from GD-P! :yoiks:

[rhett o rick]

10. The stock market is the biggest fraud perpetrated on the middle class. rec. nm

[leftstreet]

11. Big K&R

[juno jones]

12. Thanks, I needed that... n/t

[Echo In Light]

15. Oligarchy

[HamdenRice]

16. Inarticulate rage -- now that's the way to get back at "The Man"!!1!#@!

Go, Orwellian Ghost, Go!!

I'm sure The Man is quaking in his boots because of your courageous posting of rage on an internet message board! I can see the millions of proletarians lining up behind you already!!1!

[Orwellian_Ghost]

17. Quite articulate in fact

Clearly stated and purposeful.

Now of course you are correct that The Man is not threatened in any way by people posting on the internet, or by online petitions, or by mass phone calls from irate citizens. None of that works as history, recent and distant, points out. So that then begs the question, "What does it take?"

And your answer is?

Of course many of us are doing many other things and your presumption otherwise once again displays your supreme consistency in pulling a red herring out of your hat.

[webDude]

31. nice contribution.

[sabrina 1]

32. Funny, rightwingers and pretend Democrats

always use 'The Man', whatever it is supposed to mean when attempting to undermine the justifiable anger of the American people.

I looked it up a while ago and it seems it is meant to imply that anyone expressing anger at the government is 'a hippie'! I can understand why rightwingers would 'accuse' someone of being a 'hippie' and consider it an insult as they are still enraged over that period of history that produced the Civil Rights Act eg. I've even asked a few of them why they become so enraged at the mere mention of 'the sixties' which never made sense to me. Most of their responses were pretty incoherent but peppered with words like 'The Man' and 'lieberal morons' etc.

But whenever I've seen these same talking points coming from Democrats against other Democrats, because they were carefully thought up 'attack phrases' for the right to use against Democrats, I don't know what the point is.

If 'The Man' as I have read, is a phrase describing those in power who are working against the people, then why would a Democrat use rightwing attack phrases to mock the frustration of people who are rightfully angry? As a Democrat are you not on the same side as the OP, and if so, is there no other suggestion you might have as to what people can do to stop the corruption in government, other than attack a fellow Democrat, and with rightwing, Rush Limbaugh-type, rhetoric?

Maybe you can explain this adaptation by the left of the worst of the right's propagandistic rhetoric designed to undermine Democrats? Righties have explained their reasons to me. I'm interested in hearing a 'leftie's reasoning.

[HamdenRice]

35. Actually, no.

If you were around in the 60s and 70s, "the Man" was used by smart literate progressives to ridicule the nihilistic, simplistic views of the far left, who managed to destroy the civil rights movement and anti-war movement. Assuming you were around when the phrase was used, I'm a little surprised you don't know this. Or maybe you weren't around, and are only learning about the term from, as you put it, "right wing" sources.

Gil Scott Heron (I sincerely hope you know who he is) used "the man" to devastating affect in his spoken word poem, "Brother," although he ironically applied it not to "the authorities" but to a caricature figure of a person who would probably use terms like "the man". DU's Democrat-hating Trotskyite extremists, doomers, let it failers, and other nihilists remind me of the targets of ridicule of the 1960s that were so perfectly lampooned by Gil. (Many critics believe that the poem was aimed at the real life person, Amiri Baraka/Leroy Jones):

Brother
Gil Scott Heron



We deal in too many externals, brother.
Always afros, handshakes, and dashikis.

Never can the man build a working structure for black capitalism.
Always does the man read Mao or Fanon.

I think I know you would-be black revolutionaries too well.
Standing on a box on a corner, talking about blowing the white boy away.
That's not where it's at, yet, brother.

Calling this man an Uncle Tom,
And telling this woman to get an afro,
But you won't speak to her if she looks like hell, will you, brother?

Some of us been checking your act out kinda closely.
And by now it's looking kinda shaky, the way you been rushing people with your super-black bag.
Jumping down on brothers with both feet because they are after their B.A.
But you're never around when your B.A. is in danger.
I mean your black ASS.

I think it was a little too easy to forget that you were a negro before Malcolm.
You drove your white girl through the village every Friday night,
While the grass roots stared in envy and drank wine.
Do you remember?

You need get your memory banks organized, brother.
Show that man you call an Uncle Tom just where he is wrong.
Show that woman that you are a sincere black man.

All we need you to do is SHUT UP AND BE BLACK.
Help that woman.
Help that man.
That's what brothers are for, brother.

[katkat]

38. alternate space time continuum

I'm surprised to hear that the civil rights movement and the anti- Vietnam war movements failed. I must have been living in some alternate space time continuum back then.

[chicago legal pro]

58. You must have been especially with Vietnam

The protests died off quickly after the draft ended but the war continued unabated. After Nixon bombed the Vietnamese into submission during the Christmas, 1972 bombing campaign the American participation in the war was over in six weeks. Humans have such selective memories.

[HamdenRice]

72. I didn't say they failed. I said they were destroyed.

The Civil Rights movement had spectacular victories. It could have had more spectacular victories, but it was destroyed by nihilists from the Black Panther Party and even more bizarre groups like the Symbionese Liberation Army and Black Liberation Army, who destroyed the movements cross racial appeal and drew in violent repression of the state. The same is true of the anti-war movement, which was destroyed by the Weathermen and the like.

If only know-nothing nihilists -- the modern day version of which is the OPer and his cohorts here -- hadn't gotten involved, those movements would have completely changed society.

[sabrina 1]

73. I think you more or less confirmed what I said.

If you were around in the 60s and 70s, "the Man" was used by smart literate progressives to ridicule the nihilistic, simplistic views of the far left, who managed to destroy the civil rights movement and anti-war movement

Exactly what rightwingers say. And those 'lefties' I mentioned above, pretend democrats. There are not that many of them, but they show up whenever the subject of the sixties arises and it's hard to tell the difference between them and the wingnuts on that subject.

Maybe you can give some examples of who those 'nihilistic far lefties' who set out to destroy the civil rights movement were?

And btw, it is not necessary to have been present during an historic period to be informed about it. Sometimes it is better not to have been there as you are without the biases that probably existed during all such events.

[Grinchie]

40. Spoken like a true Blue Dog Hamden.

Go back to counting your stock options.

[HamdenRice]

71. ROFL!

The non-profit sector does not give out stock options. But of course, among the know nothing nihilists, anyone who can even talk intelligently about the economy must be a shill for Goldman Sachs!

[Orwellian_Ghost]

75. Talk about knowing nothing

You speak ignorantly of nihilists. They knew quite a lot.

[pleah]

18. This is my favorite sign.

K&R

[jody]

19. Don't forget government that those three groups dominate. n/t

[City Lights]

20. K&R. nt

[Patiod]

21. Recommending, but please don't f$#k Big Pharma too hard

They pay my internet bills...(I live in PA - a LOT of us rely on Big Pharma here)

[Kablooie]

24. On the other hand...

It's a hap-hap-happy day
Toodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-oodle-lay
For you and me for us and we
All the clouds have rolled away



Just an alternate opinion.

[Downtown Hound]

25. I couldn't have said it better myself. n/t

[defendandprotect]

26. And remember, it can always get worse . . . these same people run our country . . .!!!

They will continue to milk the Treasury for every dime/nickle --

they will reorganize to water down/dilute and weaken SS and Medicare --

What we have are elected officials who are 'PRE-BRIBED' and 'PRE-OWNED' --

Obama and Democrats should be calling us out into the streets as GOP has done!!

Labor unions should be calling out Democrats --

Women's groups --

where are they all????????????????????

[Luciferous]

27. Love that sign- K&R nt.

[Orwellian_Ghost]

29. Indeed

[tooeyeten]

28. If Obama doesn't meet these assholes head on

he doesn't deserve another term. I've never donated money to another candidate, he was the first, because I believed the message.

[keepCAblue]

49. Looks like O's throwing in the towel...backs away from public option...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/20090816/pl_politico/26158

W.H. backs away from public option

So much for having any balls...

[HughMoran]

30. Agreed

Let's fuck 'em with porcupines.

[NightWatcher]

33. dont forget about...FUCK the CONGRESSCRITTERS THAT ACCEPT THE MONEY

and in turn do their bidding.

[David Zephyr]

34. Enthusiastic K&R.

:)

[KoKo]

47. Didn't you watch Bill Clinton's speech to Netroots on C-Span?

He said...it's worth it to accept that "less than half a loaf" to get reform. Better to go with that than let the Dem Party go down to the Repug thugs.

:eyes: ...rolling eyes is what I thought about it...

[crazy_vanilla]

37. kick nt

[valerief]

41. Great sign. nt

[proReality]

42. Catchy little tune!

K&R

[Hydra]

43. Our Gov't is truly the best money can buy. n/t

[readmoreoften]

44. K&R.

K & fucking R

[_dynamicdems]

45. LMAO!

:kick:

[BallardWA]

46. Drudge is flying a white flag on the site..

I am quite down-in-the-mouth right now. My husband and I had the Canada talk again this AM.

[KoKo]

48. I dunno...but if you are looking at a "White Flag" flyin on Drudge Report as excuse to leave this

country...then I would wonder about your judgment. :shrug:

[BallardWA]

52. Sorry if you didn't catch the nuance-

The fuckers are claiming victory. I am so sick of fighting. We worked our asses off to get Obama elected. We spent the limit on contributions: money we could really use right now, we canvassed, we called, we even turned my rock-ribbed repuke father-in-law into a believer. You can post your shrugging emoticon, but the facts are that one of the platforms of the election is going down, and with it all the hope.

[KoKo]

54. I think we shouldn't believe much of what the MSM is putting out there...

Remember who they work for and how they've distorted every Dem program since Carter. I think we just keep making our views known to our Congress critters before we "raise the white flag." It's too early to give up and show distress. It makes us vulnerable to the Forces of Evil.

[Quantess]

69. It's not over yet. (no text)

[Ghost of Tom Joad]

50. just got back from England

and realized that there were no phama commercials on the telly. Guess the public option does have its advantages. It was a pleasure to watch a program without Viva Viagra!!

[NorthCarolina]

51. Trading votes for gold...it's the American way! nt

[polichick]

53. Yep - it is. nt

[thereismore]

55. fuck them all. I am so sick of them. nt

[Political Heretic]

57. Perhaps the neither corporate party is really the answer

I know, heresy...

But I think the greater offense is how the majority of elected Democrats appear to be selling out people for money interests and personal power.

Never in my life have I been more convinced that the entire spectrum of politics at the national level is corrupt beyond all hope. What's left is a public grassroots movement - a political insurgency if you will, to clean out everything - regardless of party who won't put the people first. And if the "laws" get in the way of putting people first, then even the laws need changed. And if the constitution gets in the way of putting people first, then the constitution needs to be changed or discarded.

People. First.

Period.

It's time.

[MessiahRp]

61. +1

No public option pretty much proves to me that Democrats are not fighting for us... and probably precipitates my exit from the party.

Rp

[audas]

68. Left and Right - are the one -

Yes you are quite correct - it simply fascinates me the manner in which left wing / liberals Believe in democrats as an "alternative" to the republicans. There is some excellent literature on this type of attitude, what astounds me is that people do not realize that it is their own party which must be watched the keenest - Obama should be held under greater scrutiny than Bush - Why ? Bush was at least honest, he told us he was a bastard, Obama tells us he is a saint, and there fore should be trusted.

It is illegal to use propaganda directly against the population of the US by the US government, hence they employ UK PR houses such as Knowltons, and of course vice versa, and the CIA simply uses papers like the Guardian and Observer to deploy their Myths because they know the LEFT trust their newspapers and will accept more willingly what they are told. From here the lie simply wafts over the Atlantic to New York for immediate dissemination.

The saddest thing is that the right wing KNOW their party are corrupt and therefore do not simply accept what ever is told to them - it is a shame the left have become such bleating wool growers.

Is that Foucault in your Avatar, it actually looks like him during his meeting with Chomsky.

Audas.

[Skittles]

60. a star for you my dear

:thumbsup:

[johnfunk]

62. ... and FUCK the FUCKING DIAZ BROTHERS!

Just for the fucking fuck of it.

[scarletwoman]

63. There is only one party: the Money Party.

We don't have a democracy, we have a plutocracy. The only interests our government protects are the monied interests. The voters are just herd animals to them.

sw

[maryf]

64. a lot of plow horses and worker bees too...

and those bees have stingers...and herd animals can stampede...

[invictus]

66. +1

[invictus]

65. K&R

[mullard12ax7]

67. Yes but don't dare tell anyone what their 401k, pensions are invested in

If you do, you'll hear the wonderful virtues extolled of all those wonderful companies.

[ipaint]

74. I'm sure the top 20-25% know exactly where their investments are.

The rest are working class and below there are no 401k's or investments. Don't tell anybody though... apparently it's a big secret since you don't even know.

[Saboburns]

70. RIGHTEOUS

Right On Dude/