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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:48 AM
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Wow! I'm stunned by the utter stupidity of Tom Coburn
Edited on Sun Aug-16-09 09:56 AM by MrScorpio
He says that people are upset at their government because of the corruption and incompetence... But fails to say that the GOP has led all the way with that shit.

He says that the government shouldn't be in the health care business... But fails to mention that Medicare recipients want to keep their benefits

It's Bizzarro motherfuckers like this who are the source of our problems in this country


Edit: Fixed errors caused by teh stunningly stoopid
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TayTay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:51 AM
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1. Tom Coburn is insane
He was insane in '04 when he claimed that Oklahoma had a crisis in the schools because lesbians were doing recruitment drives in the girls' bathrooms and he has descended further into madness since then.

Anyone who has him on as a serious guest has forfeited the right to be taken seriously.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:51 AM
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2. he's not just stupid, he's a pathological liar like the rest of the right wing
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timeforpeace Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:37 AM
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26. HE may be an excellent, well respected physician but how does that qualify him for this?
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:51 AM
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3. Agreed
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:52 AM
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4. "I wasn't in Congress then. I don't know"
That answer just blew me away. What an ignoramus.
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:54 AM
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5. And they weren't talking about something from decades ago.
It was from 2003.
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Walk away Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:02 AM
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9. And he is a doctor! Doesn't he read the paper?
Why would someone in the medical field and politics be interested in a bill his party passed (a very bad and costly one) and what was in it.

It was only passed to get more lobbying money for the radical right wing and insure the terrified low-info senior vote.
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Dude_CalmDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 03:31 PM
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29. I wasn't shocked so much as pissed at Gregory for letting that stand as an answer.
What an asshat. Time for Rachel to host MTP.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:54 AM
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6. Life expectancy is not an indicator of the quality of health care

the man if a fucking idiot.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 09:58 AM
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7. He points out corruption, but never mentions WHO engages in fraud:
Bill Frist's family business seems to be responsible for a chunk of it. Wonder how many other GOP pols or the people who bribe them also make big bucks stealing money from taxpayer funds for medical care.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6190103

http://www.usdoj.gov/opa/pr/2003/June/03_civ_386.htm

We should make damned sure the fraudsters get mentioned each and every time an insurance industry protecting GOP pol mentions medicare fraud. Make them pay dearly for trying to scare people with half told tales on the issue of fraud! Get the rest of the story out there in the discussion too.
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:01 AM
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8. Does David Gregory want to hear answers...
Or is he just in love with his own voice?
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:25 AM
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25. The latter.
He thinks he's being a "tough journalist" by supporting right wingers on broadcast media dominated by right wing views. Guess he thinks he's super cool for allowing right wing lies to float unchallenged while tossing peculiar sidebar discussions at those pesky Democratic guests.

When he could be saying-- You right wingers trotted out the same scary arguments the last time Democrats tried to introduce national health insurance, saying you could do better, but the private sector failed miserably. Things are much worse today. What's wrong with a little competition from the public sector?

Instead he chose to say Golly, "the president says people can keep their private insurance but if their employers drop it then they won't get to keep it." Ooooh. Running a gotcha on the president instead of addressing the more important issue about how competition from the public sector could finally get the miserable failure that is the privatized system to control its ever-escalating costs and exclusions of care.

Daschle and Maddow got some good points in but it was disturbing seeing right wingers get away with so much nonsense.

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earthboundmisfit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:09 AM
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10. And at his town halls he was supporting the crazies in the audience
by treating their absurd spoutings (such as, "What can we do to stop this movement towards a Socialist style control of our lives?","Where is our Judicial system when it's allowed Obama to tread upon our Constitution as if it isn't even there?" ,"How do we get the stroke to (convince) all these people of our God and our guns and our freedom?") as valid questions. Stupid supporting the stupid - or he may know full well what he's doing, keeping his base all "het up"... As I noted in a post a couple days back, according to the local news I saw, each town hall was a sea of angry/scared/old white people... saw one or two faces of color but that was IT. That's Coburn's base.

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southerncrone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:18 AM
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11. So......you've never heard him speak before.
Edited on Sun Aug-16-09 10:27 AM by southerncrone
Sadly, the fact that he's a medical doctor lends credence to whatever he says on the health care debate in the eyes of the uninformed. It's obviously why the Repukes have shoved him upfront on this.

He's a fuktard of immense proportions.

edit for spelling
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:20 AM
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12. he's an ideologue
I truly believe that ideology can make even the smartest person sound stupid.
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:22 AM
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13. I'm not. He never fails to be the ignorant know-nothing asswipe that he is.
He believes stupidity is a virtue.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:23 AM
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14. Another nut job that gets high praise from Obama
which has always bugged me. Coburn ran on the 'lesbians in the bathroom' platform.

Obama:"The fact is, is that I’m also friendly with Tom Coburn, one of the most conservative Republicans in the United States Senate"

Coburn deserves praise. Lt Choi deserves to be fired. So it goes in dogma based government.
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NoodleyAppendage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:26 AM
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15. His extistence says more about the stupidity of those who elected him.
This is a representative democracy, after all. I don't blame Coburn. I blame those idiots who voted him into office.

A simple fact. There are parts of this country that are cesspools of ignorance and hate.

J
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:26 AM
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16. I got the following screenshot of Tom from the show:
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Cairycat Donating Member (454 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:26 AM
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17. My impression: he's one of those docs who think M.D. means
Medical Divinity. He seemed pretty upset Rachel called him on some of his bullshit.
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:28 AM
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18. He's in Rachel's sights now and will feel the heat this week
At least I hope she zeroes in on him and gives him special attention all week. I'll bet she can do for him what she did for Dick Armey. :D
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:50 AM
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19. Actually, government is responsible for health, safety and welfare issues.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:55 AM
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20. Coburn couldn't even raise enough money to run again! Why was he on the MTP panel? Stupidity rules
Undecided on campaign, U.S. Sen. Tom Coburn raises little money

BY CHRIS CASTEEL
Published: April 17, 2009

http://www.newsok.com/undecided-on-campaign-u.s.-sen.-tom-coburn-raises-little-money/article/3362139

WASHINGTON — Sen. Tom Coburn raised relatively little money in the first three months of the year as he continued to deliberate on whether to run for a second term......

Coburn, R-Muskogee, collected $17,189 in the quarter and had only $57,064 in the bank at the end of March, according to his latest campaign finance report. Coburn spent about $5 million winning his Senate seat in 2004. However, a race next year could be much cheaper if he’s not challenged by a well-known or well-funded candidate.........

..........

OK - so I guess he is "loved" by his constituents?? NOT! :eyes:
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:59 AM
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22. I didn't know that!
Well, I still hope Rachel shows him a little bit of special attention this week. Oy.
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1776Forever Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:07 AM
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24. I would love Rachel to "burn" Coburn! However he is the poster boy for the right-wing crazies!
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eleny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 12:38 PM
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27. ROFLMAO!
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CoffinEd Donating Member (248 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:57 AM
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21. With a little help from the coporate media whores
It also doesn't help that most of the so-called "mainstream media" fails to do its job of fully informing the public by calling out conservative lies as soon as they leave the lips of the lying liars. Instead of calling a lie a lie, most of the media makes it seem as though the lie is nothing more than a 'difference of opinion' and has merit worth discussing.

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Strelnikov_ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 11:03 AM
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23. As Krugman called it, "Shape of Earth, opinions differ" journalism
Democracy depends on an informed electorate.

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Wednesdays Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 02:44 PM
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28. K&R
:kick:
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:14 PM
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30. Agree. At the very point when you believe Coburn can't get
any more unstable and stupid, he shocks you by exceeding all previous expectations.
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Jack Sprat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-16-09 10:17 PM
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31. Don't be stunned. He gets paid well
to contradict reality. That's what he's there for.
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