NRaleighLiberal
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Sun Aug-16-09 04:03 PM
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So I guess there is only one party - the Corporate Party. What is it going to take? |
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Edited on Sun Aug-16-09 04:04 PM by NRaleighLiberal
I just get the impression that we are getting played. And it is a shame - so much optimism, so much energy getting squandered. So many white collar crimes going unpunished. So many people being hung out to dry. It is indeed just about money and access - greed. Corporations, being abetted by the media. I just feel hope slipping away, day by day.
What will it take to turn things around?
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Sun Aug-16-09 04:16 PM
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That way, politicians will have to answer to their constitutants. Unfortunately, corporatism has entrenched itself so far into our government that any type of reform won't end up yielding much. The best thing we can do is hold their feet to the fire. If they have a sense of nobility like Kucinich, then they have nothing to lose.
In addition, we really should look toward supporting other parties. Much like what Bush did for conservatives, I fear that Obama will do the same for liberals. Therefore, we really need some type of 3rd party front that focuses on breaking the two party stranglehold. Of course, we also don't want to fall into a trap where the left splinters off and the Republicans end up taking control. If we have some type of progressive party, then we also need to support some type of conservative party that offsets the other side.
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Sun Aug-16-09 07:24 PM
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12. Good thoughts. When the Thom Hartmann |
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Edited on Sun Aug-16-09 07:32 PM by truedelphi
Political videos were put up on Friday, the ones that showed exactly what Obama had said when he ran, so that you didn't have to doubt your memory of his being on the side of people and not corporations, it helped my sanity. But on the other hand, I also felt very ill that once again we had been played.
All that charisma just so he can act like the PR shill for the corporations. Obama supports Monsanto, despite their record of environmental desecration and their economic ruin of small farmers.
He supports coal, "the clean energy".
And he will continue to pretend that his hands are tied and that he has to fight so hard to try and maneuver through to getting us some kinda bill on Health Insurance Reform. A bill that will jolly well cater to the industry. What thinking person doesn't beleive that the Big Insurers will get exactly what they want. The "reform" will not deny the bonuses and hundred million dollar salaries of the CEO's and other people who have killed thousands of Americans a year due to stalling their treatments, retroactively denying them coverage, etc.
He should try for just one day to be unemployed, on Cobra, fighting for a sick spouse's right to have decent doctors through the HMO, decent drugs prescribed, and monetary coverage of that. All that on top of driving the loved one to the doctors, the pharmacy, etc. Then he would know what it is like to fight hard.
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Sun Aug-16-09 04:20 PM
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2. I hope no one interprets this the wrong way |
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but not until the majority of the population rises up and says ENOuGH! will this ever change. There are many ways to say ENOUGH!, some acceptable, some not. Which way usually brings the quickest result? We must metaphorically demonstrate our dis-satisfaction with the status quo, our unhappiness with the direction our foreign policy is going, our disgust with the seeming national obsession with for vapid, banal and trivial information that passes for 'news'
Sadly I don't think things will ever change to resemble anything like the place America could be. We are ruled by our corporate masters and they like things the way they are...............
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Sun Aug-16-09 04:28 PM
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3. I have to agree with you. Way too much apathy for true change. |
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Sun Aug-16-09 06:23 PM
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10. i thought we had voted true change into the WH |
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but apparently I was wrong
as I've said before, the joke's on me.
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Sun Aug-16-09 04:28 PM
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4. t will take revolution, not that it's likely to happen. |
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Sun Aug-16-09 04:33 PM
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5. interesting to see this thread starting to collect unrecs.... |
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Sun Aug-16-09 05:06 PM
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6. Here's what it will take |
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When enough people who "had it all" lose everything and there's a revolution in the streets, then things will change.
As long as these bastards get away with what they do, it will go on. And with the help of the still complacent masses they will be getting away with it for a long time. Like forever. Take a look around....much of America has a real I-got-mine-screw-the-rest-of-you attitude. This only increases as things get worse, people cling more desperately to what they've got and probably get increasingly acquisitive so as to avoid the bad things happening all around them.
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Sun Aug-16-09 06:19 PM
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Vote Green next time, it'll mess up the Dems, and sit there in the Greens til they beg to give us Universal Health Care.
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Sun Aug-16-09 06:22 PM
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9. I hate to say it, but it'll probably take lots of blood. n/t |
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Sun Aug-16-09 06:39 PM
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Natural catastrophes, lots of them. Plague, pestilence, tsunamis, volcanoes, earthquakes, drought that sort of thing. War, conquest, famine, death. Then some divine intervention.
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