When Pres. Obama signs into law Health Care Reform with a robust Public Option what will doomers say

[HamdenRice]

I'm just curious. Because we've been through these doomsday panics before. Remember during the financial crisis? The money was being given away "no strings attached," the dollar was collapsing to Weimar Deutchmark levels, and the Treasury was defaulting on t-bills? Remember when we were supposedly "sold out" in the Stimulus Bill, when we were told all of it was just going to "fat cats"?

Remember all the other doomer driven panics of the past? I notice that the doomers never, ever say, gee, we were wrong. They just go on to the next right wing talking point driven meme panic.

So what do you thing will happen when President Obama signs a health care bill with a robust public option?

[xchrom]

1. i'll thank myself for all the phone calling and letter witting

and petition holding time i've spent to ensure it gets in there -- that's what.

[HamdenRice]

8. Best possible answer! nt

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

2. They'll take personal responsibility for "pressuring" the president into doing it.

[pampango]

14. Exactly, because rule #1 is to never admit you were wrong, but to spin it into

pat on your own back. "Obama was going to sell us out, but I pressured him into pushing for a public option." :)

[NYC_SKP]

3. Whatever we get will not be enough for some who wanted what could not be had...

...and was never promised: Universal Single Payer for All.

And others wouldn't be happy even with that because they do not like or do not trust Obama.

Or they are happier when their in their "outrage" place than in any other place.

People are amusing that way.

:P

[DevonRex]

4. They'll hold out their hands for the program nad find something else to bash Obama for.

Just like the Republicans.

[Greyhound]

5. "We're so happy to have been wrong".

When we get another huge corporate welfare bill that screws people out of their money and still leaves them to die in the streets, what will you say?

[HamdenRice]

9. Is that what you think the Stimulus Bill amounted to? nt

[Greyhound]

27. Yes, with a few crumbs and fig leaves thrown in to give the con men cover. n/t

[Juche]

6. We will give him more credit

If he can get healthcare with a strong, medicare like public option I will give him more credit.

I don't know if healthcare w/o a public option is even feasable, the CPC says it will vote against it, and I think the black, hispanic and asian caucus members are saying the same thing.

What will you say if we get a bill that has no public option, despite 70% of the public (including a majority of republicans) supporting one?

[jody]

7. Don't know but the Devil will be freezing. n/t

[Echo In Light]

10. I'll give his admin credit. However, what parade of justifications will be insisted upon ...

... by those who routinely cheerlead per name brand when Obama signs a bill w/o a PO?

[ipaint]

11. Define robust public option. n/t

[Romulox]

12. "We got the spirit! We're hot; we can't be stopped!" nt

[loyalkydem]

13. I really don't care

what they say to tell you the truth.

[ThomWV]

15. "Hell has frozen over" if its "Robust"

If its watered down to the point where its meaningless then I'd say business as usual.

[old guy]

16. I don't deal with hypothetical situations too well.

I have no idea what the final bill will look like and no one else does either. I think the insurance, pharma and hospital corps will get a lot more than the people, but that's a hypothetical also so I just don't know.

[Orwellian_Ghost]

17. "The doomers"

have been correct on just about everything.

But Hammie I appreciate your consistency on the time-honored technique of name calling in order to obfuscate. That's very kool.

Did you have any inside info on this ROBUST public option?

:rofl:

Begging for crumbs as a form of citizen activism. You wrote the book on that one.

[SammyWinstonJack]

20. +1 nt

[HamdenRice]

25. Yeah, the doomers were right about the bailout giving away $23 trillion, no strings attached!

:rofl:

:silly: :crazy: :silly:

[madamesilverspurs]

18. They'll find an excuse to unrec it.

[Orsino]

19. Then everyone who ever made fun of you will be SORRY. n/t

[karynnj]

21. They will be angry that it is not single payer

or they will argue that it was not what they meant when they said public option.

[WeDidIt]

22. I think the odds of it actually happening are somewhere between slim and none

I seriously doubt there is any chance of real health care reform.

[LWolf]

23. I don't think he will.

Of course, my definition of "robust" may be different than yours, and I don't really even want a public option. I want single payer. So acting like I "won" something if there is some kind of public option allowed by those who put insurance companies before citizens would be a little dishonest.

So far, people in my region are still losing jobs, losing houses and housing, and struggling to survive. Working for the small local school district that RIF'd 42 people, cut the school year down to 147 student days, gutted PE, Music, and just about every support service, just to survive the school year, I can say that I'm not real impressed with the effects of the stimulus money so far.

Knowing that the next round of stimulus money released for education is tied to states that support Duncan's privatization mantra makes me fucking sick.

What do I think will happen when I win the lottery? I'll be able to get rid of the old mobile home I live in, that needs a new roof, new wiring, new plumbing, new windows, new walls, new insulation, a new bathtub, and new subflooring, and replace it with something that doesn't need to be condemned.

The odds of getting decent health care reform are about the same.

[Winterblues]

24. I'm sure that will happen the same day the Bush* Cabal War Criminals will be indicted

Obama has in his mind Unifying Americans and will try and do that by having equal Republican input to any and all Bills. It doesn't matter to him that Republican ideas were completely discredited over the last decade, just that they be incorporated to get majority support. IMO he doesn't understand that Americans are like children and want a Strong Leader that Tells them how it will be. I think if he would operate from a position of strength instead of compromise he would be really a Great Leader. The way he is currently operating though he will be a one term President with a very lackluster approval rating.

[Fumesucker]

26. Damn, I actually *am* living in an alternate reality..

And here I thought that was just a science fictional concept.