Anyone remember a moron on Cleveland radio back in the early '70s?

[Dr.Phool]

He may have even pre-dated Imus. His name was Gary Dee. And he was a really loudmouthed, racist. He used to make remarks like "The Browns wouldn't fumble so much, if they painted the ball green, with yellow stripes.

He was even arrested a few times for physically abusing his wife. He had a job in D.C. for a while. I think he's dead now.

[enigmatic]

1. Yep

Married Liz Richards of The Morning Exchange. Beat her up pretty badly, too. Dee made Imus look like Alan Alda.

[Dr.Phool]

2. Yeah, he was bad.

I worked 3rd shift back then, and we'd start drinking, and call him up to fuck with him. He had a pretty lengthy tape delay, and we rarely got on the air.

[enigmatic]

3. My Mom waitied on him

She worked Downtown at a Hotel/Restuarant that was popular in the 70's; Dee would come in every so often w/ Liz and was a complete a-hole to everyone. Huge drinker...

[Ikonoklast]

4. A buddy of mine knocked Gary Dee on his ass

We were drinking at The Theatrical on Short Vincent (I know, I'm ancient) and Dee was sitting at the bar, stinking drunk and said something really ignorant about my buddies' girl.

It was a two-hit fight. My buddy hit Dee, and Dee hit the floor.

We got hustled out of there pretty quick because Dee drank there all the time.

I think he missed some work after that happened.

[enigmatic]

5. The Theatrical was a great place

Man, I haven't heard that name in years..

[Ikonoklast]

6. Very eclectic assortment of characters

Cops, politicians, mobsters like Shondor Birns, Teamster officials, local TV and radio personalities, hustlers, hookers.

It was like a neutral territory during wartime.


I always felt that it was Clevelands' little slice of Vegas.

[enigmatic]

8. Shondor Birns

My Mom waited on him, too. I remember when he got blown-up in 73, I think; Wasn't it around the time of Danny Greene, or was that later?

Downtown Cleveland in the early/mid 70's was a very interesting place..

[Dr.Phool]

10. Shon got blown up before Danny.

I knew them both well.

Shondor got it at Christies Lounge on Detroit. Del Hudson, who owned Christies was a good friend of mine. He used to walk Shon out to his car every night (he parked behind Kiefers). He didn't that night.

[enigmatic]

11. Wow

That was on W. 25th, right? I bet you've got some stories from that time. Did you know Ruben Sturman? I worked a few of his year-end parties at the place I was working at; that was an eye-opener to a kid just out of High School..

[Dr.Phool]

12. I never met Sturman,

But, I knew just about everybody else. A lot of us used to meet at Carney's Top O' the Flats on Washington Ave., around the corner from Christies. That was like a lower class Theatrical, but you threw in bikers and Longshorman.

[Ikonoklast]

14. Our Union hall was right down the street from Kiefers

Needless to say, we used to give them a ton of business at least once a month.

One of our business reps said that it looked like someone put chicken fat all over the chain-link fence behind Kiefers after Shondor got blown up.

I'll never forget that mental image.

[mwb970]

15. Shondor Birns!

I haven't heard that name in a while. My parents used to live about 8 houses away from one of his homes. Never saw him, though.

[Dr.Phool]

7. Damn, I used to go in there myself on occasion.

My room-mate was selling his boat, around 1984, and Dee showed up to buy it, and was a complete jerk, and my buddy decided, he's not dealing with this asshole.

I said, "Why not?!! This motherfucker has already sunk twice. I'd give it to him!"

[enigmatic]

9. LOL

:rofl:

[WCGreen]

13. Yea he is dead....

Had a fling with a weather girl that imploded..

[Clark2008]

16. Ah ah!!

That's where the name of that website that can't be named came from!

I've always wondered how a politically right website got the the name of oddly-colored sports equipment. It was rooted in racism.

[HughBeaumont]

17. He was on WHK . . .

. . . and it was a country station, IIRC. Hence, I never listened to it.

That guy was a loathsome piece of shit who wasn't even funny. He comes from that whole generation of outspoken and hateful angry white men (like Imus, O'Reilly and Limbaugh, for instance) who lay undeserved blame at the wrong people for the problems of this country while championing its corporate slave owners.

[Liberal In Texas]

18. Even earlier, remember Joe Pyne?

One of the founding fathers of RW hate talk.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Pyne

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