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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 11:39 AM
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Bertrand Russell - 1872-1970 - a bit ahead of wing-nut-tea-bagger's times
Quote:

"The degree of one's emotion varies inversely with one's knowledge of the facts -
the less you know the hotter you get".








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HopeHoops Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 11:48 AM
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1. "Wait until it is free"?
WTF? How stupid is that?

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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 12:09 PM
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2. Barney Frank said last week:.
"talking to them is like arguing with your dining room table".

They will not hear the facts, because they can't squeeze them into their full brains.
The dumb, contrived, hate filled beliefs might fall out.

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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 01:46 PM
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6. My dining room table is distraught with the shame
of being compared to a birther/deather idiot ...
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HamdenRice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 12:23 PM
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3. That applies equally to the Limbaugh left, Obama-haters, doomers and PUMAs
Little knowledge, lots of emotion.
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deoxyribonuclease Donating Member (206 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 12:32 PM
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4. A few more Bertrand Russell quotes:
"The fundamental cause of trouble in the world today is that the stupid are cocksure while the intelligent are full of doubt."

"Many people would rather die than think; in fact, most do."

"A stupid man's report of what a clever man says is never accurate because he unconsciously translates what he hears into something he can understand."

"Dogma demands authority, rather than intelligent thought, as the source of opinion; it requires persecution of heretics and hostility to unbelievers; it asks of its disciples that they should inhibit natural kindness in favor of systematic hatred."

"Most of the greatest evils that man has inflicted upon man have come through people feeling quite certain about something which, in fact, was false."
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 12:56 PM
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5. ooh, thanks for those
especially that last one, I needed a new sig line :thumbsup"
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 01:50 PM
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7. These are wonderful. As good as or better than the one
I ran across. Thanks !
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 02:02 PM
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8. Wonderful! I've got to share them now I've seen them. They are extraordinary. n/t
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 02:07 PM
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9. I like this one
"Men fear thought as they fear nothing else on earth -- more than ruin -- more even than death.... Thought is subversive and revolutionary, destructive and terrible, thought is merciless to privilege, established institutions, and comfortable habit. Thought looks into the pit of hell and is not afraid. Thought is great and swift and free, the light of the world, and the chief glory of man."

-Bertrand Russell
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Mira Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 02:19 PM
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10. This might turn into an appreciation thread of this
important Philosopher.
(Glad to see you Fumesucker - how are the photo stitches coming along?)
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 02:23 PM
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11. Haven't done much photography lately..
For a variety of reasons.. Mostly my grandkids have kept me on the bounce.. They just started school again so I'll have more time.

Although I do have a couple of shots from last month at a river gorge that turned out nicely.. Maybe I'll post 'em
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Aug-24-09 02:25 PM
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12. ''16 Questions on the Assassination''
Regarding Dallas:

We view the problem with the utmost seriousness. U.S. Embassies have long ago reported to Washington world-wide disbelief in the official charges against Oswald, but this has scarcely been reflected by the American press. No U.S. television program or mass circulation newspaper has challenged the permanent basis of all the allegations—that Oswald was the assassin, and that he acted alone. It is a task which is left to the American people. -- Bertrand Russell



16 Questions on the Assassination

By Bertrand Russell
The Minority of One, 6 September 1964, pp. 6-8.

The official version of the assassination of President Kennedy has been so riddled with contradictions that it is been abandoned and rewritten no less than three times. Blatant fabrications have received very widespread coverage by the mass media, but denials of these same lies have gone unpublished. Photographs, evidence and affidavits have been doctored out of recognition. Some of the most important aspects of the case against Lee Harvey Oswald have been completely blacked out. Meanwhile, the F.B.I., the police and the Secret Service have tried to silence key witnesses or instruct them what evidence to give. Others involved have disappeared or died in extraordinary circumstances.

It is facts such as these that demand attention, and which the Warren Commission should have regarded as vital. Although I
am writing before the publication of the Warren Commission’s report, leaks to the press have made much of its contents predictable. Because of the high office of its members and the fact of its establishment by President Johnson, the Commission has been widely regarded as a body of holy men appointed to pronounce the truth. An impartial examination of the composition and conduct of the Commission suggests quite otherwise.

The Warren Commission has been utterly unrepresentative of the American people. It consisted of two Democrats, Senator Russell of Georgia and Congressman Boggs of Louisiana, both of whose racist views have brought shame on the United States; two Republicans, Senator Cooper of Kentucky and Congressman Gerald R. Ford of Michigan, the latter of whom is a leader of his local Goldwater movement and an associate of the F.B.I.; Allen Dulles, former director of the Central Intelligence Agency, and Mr. McCloy, who has been referred to as the spokesman for the business community. Leadership of the filibuster in the Senate against the Civil Rights Bill prevented Senator Russell from attending hearings during the period. The Chief Justice of the United States Supreme Court, Earl Warren, who rightly commands respect, was finally persuaded, much against his will, to preside over the Commission, and it was his involvement above all else that helped lend the Commission an aura of legality and authority. Yet many of its members were also members of those very groups which have done so much to distort and suppress the facts about the assassination. Because of their connection with the Government, not one member would have been permitted under U.S. law to serve on a jury had Oswald faced trial. It is small wonder that the Chief Justice himself remarked that the release of some of the Commission’s information “might not be in your lifetime” Here, then, is my first question: Why were all the members of the Warren Commission closely connected with the U.S. Government?

If the composition of the Commission was suspect, its conduct confirmed one’s worst fears. No counsel was permitted to act for Oswald, so that cross-examination was barred. Later, under pressure, the Commission appointed the President of the American Bar Association, Walter Craig, one of the supporters of the Goldwater movement in Arizona, to represent Oswald. To my knowledge, he did not attend hearings, but satisfied himself with representation by observers.

In the name of national security, the Commission’s hearings were held in secret, thereby continuing the policy which has marked the entire course of the case. This prompts my second question: If, as we are told, Oswald was the lone assassin, where is the issue of national security? Indeed, precisely the same question must be put here as was posed in France during the Dreyfus case: If the Government is so certain of its case, why has it conducted all its inquiries in the strictest secrecy?

CONTINUED...

http://karws.gso.uri.edu/JFK/the_critics/russell/Sixteen_questions_Russell.html



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