Florida prevents a Muslim family from reuniting with daughter (Right-wing Islamophobia once again)

[LBJDemocrat]

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1918228,00.html

Brainwashed? Seduced by pastor? Who knows? But the girl's under 18 and belongs with her parents. Suggesting that the parents would commit an honor killing is a crude form of religion-baiting reminiscent of Tsarist Russia. It just goes to show that, despite their lip service to "family values," conservatives are all for destroying families, as long as we're talking about Muslim families.

[LBJDemocrat]

1. This is worth reading

Kick

[Obamanaut]

6. Not really. nt

[realisticphish]

2. Uh, the daughter is the one accusing them of threatening her

IMHO, it's hyperbole at best, a total fabrication at worst.

Perhaps she just converted and assumed that this would happen? I don't know, people are idiots at age 17

[LisaL]

3. The girl is the one making those claims.

And since she is 17, presumably she can articulate what it is she wants.
It's not like she is seven.

[laconicsax]

4. The girl is the one claiming that her father will kill her.

She's quite adamant about it.

[Critters2]

7. Did you actually read the article? She didn't tell anyone she'd be killed,

until AFTER going to Florida. She's been brainwashed by fundie Christians. There ought to be a law against adults using the internet to encourage children to travel across the country for any reason--not just sex. These people are little better than kidnappers.

[laconicsax]

11. Did you actually read the article? She said that her father would kill her.

What does when she said it have to do with whether or not she said it?

The comment to which you responded reads, "The girl is the one claiming that her father will kill her. She's quite adamant about it."

This was in response to the OP's implication that the State of Florida was "suggesting that the parents would commit an honor killing" and that doing so "is a crude form of religion-baiting reminiscent of Tsarist Russia."

Your response has nothing to do with this. I was commenting on the role of the State in this matter, not the girl's state of mind.

[Obamanaut]

5. Are you suggesting that honor killings are merely rumors? If the

girl, under 18, was a Methodist and afraid of her parents would you think the same thing.

Here is another DU thread, from a couple of days ago, on this same incident with some pretty good posts http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=6289543

[Critters2]

8. Her parents allowed her to be a cheerleader, and there's no mention of them

not allowing her to wear typical cheerleading uniforms. Hardly the behavior of hyper-Islamists. They're a western family whose daughter was talked into running away by people they don't know. They are understandably upset.

I'm disappointed at the Islamophobia on DU.

[LBJDemocrat]

9. Tell me about it.

Sadly, both sides of the political aisle like to trash the Muslims.

The question is: If the parents were non-religious, would it be OK for their daughter to be taken away from them? If not, then why is it fair to treat one religious group differently?

[Obamanaut]

10. Islamophobia has nothing to do with this. Post #18 in the other

thread (I linked to it) says it quite nicely - here ya go:

"What the 17 year old wants and fears is irrelevant. Her cry for help doesn't matter. Her claim that she fears violence from her father means nothing. Daddy wants her home, so she must learn her place and go.

The kid thought her life was in danger and went somewhere she thought would be safe. It's unbelievable that so many would send her back, simply because they don't like the place she chose to run to.

When a 17 year old girl tells you that her life is in danger if she goes home, the LAST thing any sane and intelligent person would do is to SEND HER THERE.

But I guess she deserves the abuse, since she committed the horrendous crime of changing her religion."
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Understanding I'm the brightest bulb, if some kid tells me that he is afraid at home, that he thinks the parents will hurt him, that he doesn't want to go back - there is something worth looking into there. Isn't it true that scared, abused spouses seek asylum elsewhere from time to time? I've heard of such things.