I don't care about facts, and KEEP YOUR HANDS OFF MY CHEESEBURGER!!

[BREMPRO]

From a town hall meeting on health care with Rep. Brian Baird (D) in Vancouver, WA, to an auditorium full of Faux News brainwashed wingnuts:


"...Another earlier indicator of the crowd's mood came when the event's moderator, Hal Dengerink, began speaking about his experience in viewing health care systems in other parts of the world.He'd seen government-supported systems in Sweden, Canada and Cuba, said Dengerink, the chancellor of Washington State University-Vancouver, "and all of them have infant mortality rates lower than ours."

At that, several people began booing and one person yelled, "Don't advocate! Moderate!"

When Dengerink quietly said he was just stating facts, more people started jeering. "


"...Julia Longoria of Vancouver, who identified herself as an insurance agent, got a standing ovation.

"America is special and unique because of the way we are structured as can-do independent citizens," she said. "I for one don't want the government meddling in every phase of my life."

At that point, the crowd stood and cheered.

Longoria went on: " You're going to start taxing us on obesity. You're going to tell us what to eat." The crowd cheered some more.


http://www.oregonlive.com/health/index.ssf/2009/08/baird_town_hall_simmers_but_do.html

[YOY]

1. My god these people are imbeciles...

They boo "facts". Then they cheer the insurance agent...saying nonsense.

Let me repeat that: they BOO FACTS...then cheer the person who would take advantage of them...who says nonsense.

[endless october]

2. as if the private insurance companies aren't going to soak the obese anyhow.

[JonQ]

3. In all honesty, she's right to a degree

a big part of our health problems come back to our diet and lifestyle. Too much processed food, lots of meat and cheese, heavily fried. A laregely sedentary lifestyle, and so on.

Changing this would go a long way towards reducing obesity and cutting costs on all obesity related diseases (too many to mention).

So yeah, we need to work on that.

[BREMPRO]

6. I totally agree with you, but her point was she didn't want the "government" to encourage

healthy eating though "sin" taxes or other means such as preventative care and wellness programs, because that was an invasion of her personal liberty. Basically: I can eat what i want I don't care if that means i get diabetes and obesity related illnesses, because i have the right whatever I want. The crowd agreed.

As an insurance agent, she was probably among the many insurance industry employees who have been strongly encouraged to attend these meetings. she has a clear stake in the outcome of health care reform and it didn't seem to occur to the crowd.

[Kerrytravelers]

4. These people are lucky that stupid isn't taxed. They'd have a nickle left at the end of the day.

:crazy:

[asdjrocky]

5. "America is special and unique..."

That's the biggest part of this problem. Why do we Americans think we're somehow better than everyone else? Guess what, we're all the same.

I love these people who run around saying America is the greatest country and they tout "American Exceptionalism" but they've never set a foot outside our boarders.

[Umbral]

7. "can-do independent citizens?"

Is that why corporatists can justify moving jobs out of this country? "Americans are 'can-do' kinda people - they'll get by somehow. In the mean time, I've got a native population to exploit and my 4th mansion need another tennis court."

[MisterP]

14. and didn't a study find last week that the US economy had the lowest share of small businesses in

the industrialized world?
looks like it's time for socialism to save the free market from itself, as it's been doing since Dickens' time: Jack-London-style Victorian capitalism would have broken like Theismann's leg by the 20s had it not been for the concessions to workers in the 1860s, 1919, 1933, etc. and employees got those concessions by FIGHTING for it, not by waiting for a succession of corporatist leaders to rescue them or because consumer technology granted it to them

[rox63]

8. Insulting someone by calling them Moderate?

That's kind of like telling someone their khakis are too bright. :crazy:

[BREMPRO]

9. That was directed to the moderator of the discussion- they meant

don't advocate a position, stick to moderating the discussion.

[Javaman]

10. First they came for my cheeseburger and I did nothing...nt

[BREMPRO]

11. then they came for my mocha milkshake, and i did nothing.... n/t

[benld74]

12. If they began taxing on human stupidity, THEN they would really get pissed off!

[LiberalAndProud]

13. I give up. It doesn't add up.

"All of them have infant mortality rates lower than ours."

Protect the fetus, but once born, may the fates protect the infant. Because our good country WILL NOT.

Godess these people feed the hate.

[BREMPRO]

15. you can't reason with a dining room table...