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Wed Aug-26-09 02:13 AM
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If Orrin Hatch really was close to Ted Kennedy |
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Edited on Wed Aug-26-09 02:14 AM by oldtime dfl_er
now is the time for him to stop his vitriolic diatribes against true health care reform.
I've always heard that Hatch and Kennedy were good buddies, and if that's the case, I want Hatch to step up NOW and HONOR his friend by helping pass MEANINGFUL reform instead of obstructing.
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Wed Aug-26-09 02:17 AM
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1. Just because you're good buddies does not mean you politically support the same positions |
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Edited on Wed Aug-26-09 02:18 AM by GodlyDemocrat
or even support each other for election.
(I don't specifically know where Orrin Hatch stands. I was under the impression he supported the Massachusetts plan (a mandate without a public option) but left the talks in Congress.)
The Senate is a very unique club. Republicans and Democrats are friends, but they don't agree on the issues and they usually don't want them to be elected or reelected.
Maybe the correct word for Senators is frenemies.
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Wed Aug-26-09 02:19 AM
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they're not friends, not in the House, not in the Senate.
It used to be that way, but since DeLay did his magic and managed to cleave a lovely divide between the parties and populate his side, the GOPigs, with True Believers who refused to have anything to do with The Heathen Liberals, it's not like that any more.
Now, it's a blood sport, no socializing across the aisles, and we're all the poorer for it.......................
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Wed Aug-26-09 02:51 AM
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6. Are/were they frenemies perhaps? |
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Politics has been around since the founding of this country and its always been a blood sport since Jefferson-Adams.
However, when elections are over, at least with some in the Senate (I won't say the same for the House or for all in the Senate), they act as if they're friends, even if they endorsed the other guy's opponent.
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Wed Aug-26-09 03:00 AM
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there are no friendships of the kind that existed as recently as Reagan's tenure, but it was during that time that the tone began, ever so imperceptibly, to change.
Sure, the tradition continues of legislators referring to each other as "My good friend from -------," but there are no friendships, not the kind that once existed. Those were the days when things got done. Today we have a Congress that is static, in every sense of that deadly (in politics) word.
It took Gingrich and Delay to complete the unfortunate metamorphosis and turn it into a cut-throat competition instead of the friendly competition tinged with cooperation that had once defined our Congress. They lay their filthy hands on all of it, announcing that no one would be left standing, that it was not good enough for them to win, the liberals had to be vanquished, crushed, annihilated.
The damage that group did will resonate for generations, and it is perhaps their most vile legacy. They are wretches of the lowest order, human filth that should be hidden away from decent society, utterly without any redeeming value of any kind........................
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Tangerine LaBamba
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Wed Aug-26-09 02:17 AM
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2. It would be nice, wouldn't it? |
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But I suspect Hatch is too busy baptizing Teddy, post-mortem......................
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Wed Aug-26-09 02:21 AM
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4. Orrin will probably "honor" his friend by baptizing him into the LDS church |
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That wouldn't necessarily be a bad thing though. Mormons believe you can become the God of your own planet after you die. If Teddy gets his own planet, NASA can sign me up immediately.
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Wed Aug-26-09 02:52 AM
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7. Do we have to attack a particular religion? |
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Wed Aug-26-09 04:08 AM
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13. Attack? They're quite proud of rescuing dead souls. |
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No matter how much it offends other people.
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Thu Aug-27-09 07:21 PM
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15. It's a disgusting practice. |
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The four members of my family who converted to Mormonism tried to baptize my devoutly Catholic grandfather after his death. They have no shame. Bastards.
I'm sure Hatch would rather face the outrage of even attempting such filth rather than budge an inch on health care.
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Thu Aug-27-09 07:23 PM
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17. for the ten thousandth time, why does this matter? |
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If there is an afterlife, your devoutly Catholic grandfather gets a choice on whether or not to accept the proxy ordinance, and being a devout Catholic, likely did reject it. If not, then who the hell cares?
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Thu Aug-27-09 07:22 PM
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Yes they do, don't ask me why, but they do.
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Wed Aug-26-09 03:32 AM
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12. If that's true then take me with you! |
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Wed Aug-26-09 02:24 AM
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5. I don't know oldtime dfl_er... |
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I think that Orrin Hatch was just this Monday blaming the lack of passage of any health care bill on Ted Kennedy and his not being there. (Because of his illness.)
It's hard to hold out hope for a turnaround when you're a freaking unrepentant reptile, like Orrin Hatch.
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Wed Aug-26-09 02:55 AM
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I dunno what got into me. Hatch is a friggin reptile.
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Wed Aug-26-09 03:22 AM
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10. You're like me and so many others ... |
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Always hoping that somehow, the hard times of a fellow human will bring out the best in one of these guys.
It's ok to hope that people will do the right thing, I think. Until they show you over and over that they won't. Ever.
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Wed Aug-26-09 03:30 AM
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11. Agree he should show some respect |
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to his friend Teddy by at least "coming to the table" and acting like he wants to discuss the issue.
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