Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

Obama is an enormous gift to the Empire.

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU
 
leave iraq Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 07:35 AM
Original message
Obama is an enormous gift to the Empire.
Obama is an enormous gift to the Empire. Just as he has silenced most of the single-payer movement, an effort characterized by its superb scholarship exceeded only by its timidity, Obama has shut down the antiwar movement, completely in thrall as it is to the Democrat Party and Identity Politics.

Why exactly the peace movement has caved to Obama is not entirely clear. Like the single-payer movement, it is wracked by spinelessness, brimming with reverence for authority and a near insatiable appetite to be “part of the crowd.”

Those taken in by Obama’s arguments that the increasingly bloody and brutal AfPak war is actually a “war of necessity,” should read Steven Walt’s easy demolition of that “argument.”

http://walt.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2009/08/18/the_safe_haven_myth

Basically Obama’s logic is the same as Bush’s moronic rationale that “We are fighting them over there so we do not have to fight them over here.” There is a potential for “safe havens for terrorists,” as the Obamalogues and neocons like to call them, all over the world; and no one can possibly believe the US can invade them all.

The war is a lie.



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
Ninga Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 07:42 AM
Response to Original message
1. Ohio's Democratic Senator, Sharrod Brown, has just returned from Afghanistan and
his findings have raised many questions regarding our policy.

Sen. Brown is very concerned about government corruption and the recent elections, and questions the wisdom of our involvement.

Although the anti-war movement has moved to the side-line, is still vigilant and I for one, will take my cues from Sen. Brown and am ready to make my voice heard.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 08:12 AM
Response to Reply #1
5. +1
Sen. Brown is one of the good guys.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
joeycola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 07:44 AM
Response to Original message
2. Feingold called on Obama to have an exit strategy the other day also........


.............At an appearance before the Veterans of Foreign Wars yesterday, President Obama defended U.S. involvement in Afghanistan, calling it a "war of necessity." He claimed that "our new strategy has a clear mission and defined goals -- to disrupt, dismantle and defeat al Qaeda and its extremist allies," and he declared that “If left unchecked, the Taliban insurgency will mean an even larger safe haven from which al Qaeda would plot to kill more Americans. So this is not only a war worth fighting. This is fundamental to the defense of our people.”.............
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Zen Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 08:02 AM
Response to Original message
3. Well, I think the rationale is to stabilize Pakistan. I see no war lust in President Obama.
You think he's a gift to the Empire, and I think he's working for peace, but the path isn't a straight line, and it isn't easy. And we want him to stay alive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 08:13 AM
Response to Reply #3
6. that crooked, convoluted line to 'Peace'
Edited on Thu Aug-27-09 08:40 AM by G_j
doesn't exist
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Curtland1015 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 08:07 AM
Response to Original message
4. Yet here you are, the one brave voice smart enough to see through the lies!
:eyes:

I'm sure the "peace movement" is more than aware of what's going on in Afghanistan, and if they're silent about it, it's their own fault. Obama didn't trick or scare them into.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
datasuspect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 08:14 AM
Response to Original message
7. well, you have to have areas of instability in a corporatocracy
places like afghanistan and iraq provide great opportunities for defense contractor and governmental money laundering.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 08:15 AM
Response to Original message
8. "Beginning on Day One"...."One Brigade a Month"
We are into the eighth month now and I have not heard of a single Brigade being removed from Iraq..My trust in Obama is waning
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 08:19 AM
Response to Original message
9. What exactly did the President do to "shut down the antiwar movement?"
:shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
nightrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 08:38 AM
Response to Original message
10. knr. Terribly sad to continue these aggressive wars... Thom Hartmann said the
other day--"the only manufacturing we have left in the US is producing war goods"--guns, missiles, attack planes, etc.. Hence wars??
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 08:49 AM
Response to Original message
11. war good DADT bad. says so in the bible lol nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SIMPLYB1980 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Aug-27-09 08:53 AM
Response to Original message
12. I'm sure he's just doing the bidding of the Bilderbergs.
:sarcasm:

Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Tue May 07th 2024, 03:01 AM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC