WaPo prints story supporting torture

[spanone]

How a Detainee Became An Asset
Sept. 11 Plotter Cooperated After Waterboarding
By Peter Finn, Joby Warrick and Julie Tate
Washington Post Staff Writers
Saturday, August 29, 2009

After enduring the CIA's harshest interrogation methods and spending more than a year in the agency's secret prisons, Khalid Sheik Mohammed stood before U.S. intelligence officers in a makeshift lecture hall, leading what they called "terrorist tutorials."

In 2005 and 2006, the bearded, pudgy man who calls himself the mastermind of the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks discussed a wide variety of subjects, including Greek philosophy and al-Qaeda dogma. In one instance, he scolded a listener for poor note-taking and his inability to recall details of an earlier lecture.

Speaking in English, Mohammed "seemed to relish the opportunity, sometimes for hours on end, to discuss the inner workings of al-Qaeda and the group's plans, ideology and operatives," said one of two sources who described the sessions, speaking on the condition of anonymity because much information about detainee confinement remains classified. "He'd even use a chalkboard at times."

These scenes provide previously unpublicized details about the transformation of the man known to U.S. officials as KSM from an avowed and truculent enemy of the United States into what the CIA called its "preeminent source" on al-Qaeda. This reversal occurred after Mohammed was subjected to simulated drowning and prolonged sleep deprivation, among other harsh interrogation techniques.

"KSM, an accomplished resistor, provided only a few intelligence reports prior to the use of the waterboard, and analysis of that information revealed that much of it was outdated, inaccurate or incomplete," according to newly unclassified portions of a 2004 report by the CIA's then-inspector general released Monday by the Justice Department.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/08/28/AR2009082803874_pf.html

[depakid]

1. America- still a nation of wannabe torturers

[spanone]

2. sadly we're beyond the point of wannabe's....what part of illegal, immoral don't they understand?

[depakid]

3. Personally, I suspect the nation- and a large plurality of its populace is beyond the point

of no return.

This will be especially true if the higher ups who ordered all of this are never held to account for their crimes.

[nadinbrzezinski]

4. Either we try them or the world will

but it will happen.

It better be us.

[spanone]

5. what's the point of this story? torture works...nothing else...the media is broken

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Der Sturm Fuhter published stories

on how ugly them Jews were as late as 1945... and how the allies invented all. There are people alive today who still believe those stories and not their lying eyes.

This reminds me of the year of flags to a point.

Hey you want propaganda, my local paper... you should know only HUNDREDS visited Teddy ... the RW media has a job... and we know that.

[spanone]

8. seen this? here's some propaganda, or better yet, lies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0-dA9kPYKI8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fmediamatters%2Eorg%2F&feature=player_embedded#t=22

[nadinbrzezinski]

9. I need to get the Ghost Whisperer to FNC...

the zombies will be a real challenge to her.

Don't get me started on the ghouls.

[Eric J in MN]

6. One of the things KSM said after being tortured was that he...

...personally murdered Daniel Pearl.

There is no corroborating evidence he was anywhere near Daniel Pearl.

Torture gets people to talk, but not truthfully.

[jtrockville]

10. "...said the former official, who requested anonymity "

I'm not willing to give credence to anyone who won't identify themselves.

"Not all of it was accurate, but it was quite extensive."

So anyone could cherry-pick whatever they wanted from his essay. How is that even meaningful, unless you've already got a plan and are just looking for a way to justify its implementation?

[thecrow]

12. It sounds like it was written by Darth or Rumsferatu

recounting some wet dream they had.
Seriously... KSM teaching in lectures about al-Queda?
Come on.

[grahamhgreen]

11. Torture: Will this be Obama's gift to our children?

[Forkboy]

13. Not another Vick story....