Catholic League president: Atheists ‘out there to get us’

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http://rawstory.com/08/news/2009/08/31/catholic-league-atheists-penn-teller/


Compares Penn & Teller to Nazis

Catholic League President Bill Donohue presented a paranoid side of his personality to Fox News Monday morning, declaring that “militant, dogmatic” atheists are “out to get” Catholics and dismantle American society.

“I’m talking about the extremists within ranks who have become very, very vocal,” Donohue said. “And over the last several decades what we’ve seen is an all-out assault. This kind of new atheism. This militant dogmatic fundamentalist atheism out there to get us.”

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“Whatever you might say about the Marxists, they wanted to tear down society to put something new in,” Donohue said. “But the new radicals are the nihilists, all they want to do is tear down the cultural edifice of American society. They are intellectually spent, they have nothing to offer.”

PENN & TELLER: NAZIS!

Donohue also discussed a recent episode of the Showtime series Penn & Teller: Bullshit! that focuses on the history of the Catholic Church, and in which Penn Jillette concludes: “If your morality is governed by anything personal, ethical, rational or humanitarian, then the Vatican is bullshit.”
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there is a video
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well, I'm out to get their pedophile priests and those that protect them like the pope.

the vatican is like a dragon's den: full of stolen treasure.

[gratuitous]

1. You better believe it, Billy

They just got Teddy. You have to know that you're next.

:hide:

[stray cat]

2. There are certainly some that are but probably no more than in the past

[Kerrytravelers]

3. Perhaps their feelings of being attack is really just a counter attack.

I get so tired of this continual nonsense from Donohue.

[PVnRT]

4. Damn. They're on to me.

[Iggo]

5. So WE are out to get THEM.

Huh. I must've missed a meeting. I had it the other way around. My bad.

[EFerrari]

22. The projection is pretty stunning, for sure. n/t

[GreenPartyVoter]

30. It sure is. It's that persecution complex again, which always smacks of the

ridiculous in a nation with the freedom to pursue religion or not.

Billy, you want to feel persecuted, go be a missionary in a nation that would just as soon torture you and put you to death for your beliefs, you big crybaby.

[brooklynite]

6. Don't forget his previous opinion...

HYSTERIA OVER IRISH CLERGY ABUSE

May 20, 2009

After nine years of investigation, Ireland’s Commission to Inquire into Child Abuse has published its findings. More than 30,000 children, most of them delinquents, passed through one or more of Ireland’s Catholic-run institutions from the 1920s through the 1980s.

Catholic League president Bill Donohue comments on the report today:

Reuters is reporting that “Irish Priests Beat, Raped Children,” yet the report does not justify this wild and irresponsible claim. Four types of abuse are noted: physical, sexual, neglect and emotional. Physical abuse includes “being kicked”; neglect includes “inadequate heating”; and emotional abuse includes “lack of attachment and affection.” Not nice, to be sure, but hardly draconian, especially given the time line: fully 82 percent of the incidents took place before 1970. As the New York Times noted, “many of them now more than 70 years old.” And quite frankly, corporal punishment was not exactly unknown in many homes during these times, and this is doubly true when dealing with miscreants.

Regarding sexual abuse, “kissing,” and “non-contact including voyeurism” (e.g., what it labels as “inappropriate sexual talk”) make the grade as constituting sexual abuse. Moreover, one-third of the cases involved “inappropriate fondling and contact.” None of this is defensible, but none of it qualifies as rape. Rape, on the other hand, constituted 12 percent of the cases. As for the charge that “Irish Priests” were responsible, some of the abuse was carried out by lay persons, much of it was done by Brothers, and about 12 percent of the abusers were priests (most of whom were not rapists).

The Irish report suffers from conflating minor instances of abuse with serious ones, thus demeaning the latter. When most people hear of the term abuse, they do not think about being slapped, being chilly, being ignored or, for that matter, having someone stare at you in the shower. They think about rape.

By cheapening rape, the report demeans the big victims. But, of course, there is a huge market for such distortions, especially when the accused is the Catholic Church.

http://www.catholicleague.org/release.php?id=1616

Is there, in fact, a Catholic League, or is it just Bill and his mailing list?

[flakey_foont]

7. and of course, the Catholic Church never went after anybody

like say, witches, Protestants, Jews, Cathars, Muslims, heretics, Gnostics, Freemasons,

I saw the episode of Penn & Teller..............what did they say in there that was not true?

[Blue_Tires]

24. don't forget Galileo...

[No Elephants]

32. Oh, for pity sake. He got pardoned just a couple of years ago. Hold a grudge, why doncha?

:sarcasm:

[Lost-in-FL]

8. A Counter Crusade?? nt

[MindPilot]

9. "Catholic League President Bill Donohue presented a paranoid side of his personality..."

He has another one?

[Tesha]

12. Just call him Mœbius Man! (NT)

[DefenseLawyer]

10. Nihilists! Fuck me...

I mean, say what you like about the tenets of National Socialism, Dude, at least it's an ethos. -Walter Sobchak

[smokey nj]

11. Bill Donohue is a horrible person.

[Warpy]

13. Yeah , Billy, dogmatic atheists are coming to destroy you

even though it's a mystery to me what dogma we might be dogmatic about since atheism is pretty much a rejection of all religious dogma as silly.

I guess the noisier people are about what fine examples of religious rectitude they are, the less they can tolerate the mere existence of people whose crime is that they simply disagree.

If Donohue isn't careful, he's going to have to start looking over his shoulder, not for atheists but for men in white coats with butterfly nets.

[formercia]

16. Fundamentalist atheists as well.

:rofl:

The man is an idiot.

[YOY]

14. So are evangelicals...but you don't mind snuggling up to them...

n.t.

[girl gone mad]

43. Good point.

Half the protestants I know hate Catholics with a raging passion.

[Annces]

15. whenever there is power, people come in to co-opt it n/t

[MineralMan]

17. Onward Godless Soldiers

March away from war.
Leave the cross-eyed Christians,
Fighting as before.

We don't want your battle
Or your crucifix,
So please ignore us nicely;
Go back to your old tricks.

Fight it with each other,
Let us drink our beer
Battle over Jebus;
We'll watch from over here.

[Sebastian Doyle]

18. I'm not an atheist, but Bill Donohue is a Opus Dei douchebag

Penn Jillette is also a douchebag, for that matter. But Donohue is the type of "Catholic" who would kill Jesus all over again just to glorify himself.

http://www.southparkstudios.com/clips/104421

[scheming daemons]

19. Boo!

I'm coming to get you, Christian.

Better hide!


BOO!

[Javaman]

20. BOOGA BOOGA!!! Here we come!!! Don't let your daughters out!!!

:eyes:

[DCKit]

27. Silly. Everyone knows athiests are afflicted with "Teh Gay".

Daughters, Feh. Sons, husbands, grandpas (the older the better) and livestock, well that's another story.

[Javaman]

34. oh, um, right then. DON'T LET YOUR SONS OUT!!

:rofl:

[Swede]

21. Ah, that must be exhausting.

[Echo In Light]

23. Because it's always those pesky atheists who attempt to legislate their belief systems

... and not the other way 'round.


Quack

[old mark]

25. After thousands of years of persecuting those with differing beliefs,

the catholics are calling foul. I went to catholic school for 12 years, against my will, because of my parents beliefs, and I am against them as well as other organized religions - I consider myself an agnostic, rather than an atheist, but you all have my support.

When the athiests start burning catholics at the stake in public, then I will have some sympathy for the church.

mark

[scipan]

28. Thanks for the perspective. It is just a bit ironic, isn't it? n/t

[Ignis]

26. Atheists "who have become very, very vocal"

Yes, atheists often use the resources of their huge, globe-spanning organization that's been around for almost 2000 years, has great influence over many governments, possesses a treasury of untold billions, and uses its bully pulpit to cause major legislative change.

Oh wait...that's the Church, isn't it? My bad. :shrug:

I guess the not-so-subtle message here is that atheists should sit down and shut up--just like everyone who dares to disagree with the Church. Now that's progressive!

[david13]

29. Actually, it's the other way around, isn't it? The church is out to get

the non believers. And also, the church has always sought, and previously enjoyed, world domination, they want to rule the world. They did at one time.
dc

[troubledamerican]

48. Best post here.

It's the time-honored Neocon strategy:

Accuse & Project what you're doing yourself.

"Fuzzy Math", etc.

[frylock]

31. yes, we are..

better watch your back, jackoff. and don't turn the lights off, because we are in your closets, attics, and hiding under your beds.

[No Elephants]

33. Plenty of bigotry on all sides. And each side thinks it's only the other.

[lapislzi]

35. The atheist agenda:

Leave us the fuck alone. That is all.

Thank you.

[gaspee]

37. But we're the bigots

Funny, eh?

Personally, I think one has to be a bit of a moron to actually believe religions that were created and used to explain a scary world to a primitive people - but if it gives them comfort and doesn't bother me, I don't care. Believe in all the gods you want to - but they take it as a personal insult that atheists even exist.

[lapislzi]

39. Here's a clue:

You CAN'T be persecuted if you're the majority.

Like you, I don't give a crap if you want to worship at the altar of a talking horse, or an alien, or the easter bunny. It's none of my damned business, just as my belief system (such as it is) is nobody's concern but my own.

[Vidar]

36. Who burned more people & led more genocidal Crusades? I t wasn't the atheists.

[City Lights]

38. Bill Donohue is a horrid example of a Christian, and a few cards shy of a full deck.

He gives me the creeps.

[old mark]

40. CL, they are ALL a few cards shy of a full deck.........

he is just more vocal than most.

mark

[TexasObserver]

41. South Park did the definitive Donohue skewering.

[Mz Pip]

42. I've got better things to do

than be out to get the Catholic Church - like my laundry, shoe shopping and watching True Blood.

I doubt Donohue, who mostly sounds like he's off his meds everytime I hear him speak, can give one concrete example of how atheists are our to get Catholics. Has there been big marches of atheists going from church to church with torches boarding up the doors? Are Catholics being rounded up and sent to re-education camps by atheists (or anyone else, for that matter).

The endless hyperbole of those who hate Obama is really getting tiresome. It is such intellectually lazy bullshit.

[Ladyhawk]

44. Drat! They discovered my evil plan.

Now I must slink back into my lair to devise another.

[Touchdown]

45. BOO!

[BlooInBloo]

46. (shrug) I'm against all who are against truth.

[OneGrassRoot]

47. This is one of the main things on the Faux News agenda evidently...

not just Catholics, in this case, but crazy Beck had a preacher from Dallas on last night who said "they" are trying to destroy the Judeo-Christian values this country was founded on.

It's a much more prominent theme being spoken out loud by the crazies, not just found within viral emails.

[DCKit]

49. When the "Judeo" figures out their role in the Xian's Armageddon...

there's going to be Hell to pay.