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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 03:12 PM
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CNN Reporting Rove's Attorney Admits that Fitzgerald correct re Missing E-Mails in 2003
Edited on Fri Apr-13-07 03:25 PM by KoKo01
CNN just has Ed Henry reporting that Emails related to Fitzgerald's investigation were missing and showed Fitzgeralds statement about missing Emails. Also showed Melanie Sloan (CREW) talking about how many emails were missing from the Executive Office in those crucial years from 2003-2005.

Ed Henry's report was good but of course Wolfie referred to CREW as "Liberal" Watch Dog Group who is representing the Wilson's in law suit against Libby and Andrea Koppel who said there was not much in the Document Drop today and not a smoking gun except something she read about "sniveling secretaries."

Anyway it was good they tied the missing e-mails into Fitz's investigation and quoted Luskin admitting that Fitzgerald was correct that there were missing e-mails from Rove when he investigated Libby.

Wonder if that's what "threw sand" in Fitz's eyes in that investigation. That the e-mails were missing and he couldn't review them. Wonder why he didn't impound the server?
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ChairmanAgnostic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 03:14 PM
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1. a good cafferty question about the surge, too.
we should venture forth and opine.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 03:16 PM
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2. Those E-mails are still around, somewhere.
There is more than one server involved. The one Karl used to send it, the one used to receive it, and likely others along the way. The message was stored somewhere until it was downloaded and read. Often, multiple servers are set up to balance load. It would take some time to determine which servers were even involved, given the loads on any particular day.

There are a lot of possibilities. I'll bet someone, somewhere, has a copy of some of these deleted messages. We just have to find them. Maybe cut a deal to keep them out of jail for their other crimes...? :shrug:
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aint_no_life_nowhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 03:17 PM
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3. Why didn't Fitzgerald see that as a prosecutable obstruction of justice?
Edited on Fri Apr-13-07 03:18 PM by aint_no_life_nowhere
Was proving "intent" going to be too difficult? I would have thought at a minimum that Fitzgerald would have subpoenaed the computers themselves in an effort to retrieve the e-mails. If all of the delted e-mails are incriminating or potentially so, that in itself shows an intentional pattern to deceive the investigation and obstruct justice.
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Broadslidin Donating Member (949 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 03:17 PM
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4. Evidently, Fitzgerald Was Aware of the R.N.C. e-mail Deception All Along..!
Edited on Fri Apr-13-07 03:24 PM by Broadslidin
Could Fitzgerald be a co-conspirator in this blatant
violation of the Hatch Act and Presidential Records Act...?
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 03:24 PM
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6. What the CNN report said was that these were e-mails missing from White House Archives...
Edited on Fri Apr-13-07 03:31 PM by KoKo01
so that puts a little different situation in play. And, that's apparently those are the ones Luskin was verifying that Fitzgerald was correct about. The report didn't mention the RNC e-mails which some DU Plamegate followers believe is where the incriminating evidence about Rove's involvement with outing Plame are. They just went "missing" onto the RNC server where he was probably communicating what he didn't want archived.

Although this might also mean that White House Servers or Archives were tampered with in some way...which is what the report was suggesting...that the e-mails there were missing which then leads to the next step. :shrug:
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 03:28 PM
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7. No wonder he doesn't want to be labeled a "Republican".
Of course, he doesn't want to be labeled a Democrat either. :)
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 04:10 PM
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11. He was a little busy proving his case against Libby
We have no idea what he knew or did not know, besides what's already in the record. If you trust Luskin to tell the truth about anything, I wonder what else you'll buy.

>Could Fitzgerald be a co-conspirator in this blatant
violation of the Hatch Act and Presidential Records Act...?<

Please. I'm sure he wants to lose his law license and spend years in prison. Give me a break.

Julie
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 04:34 PM
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12. It will be up to Fitz to explain WHY if he knew about the
RNC network and he didn't go after them for violation of the Hatch Act

its in his ball court

Rove obviously obstructed justice

He will be answering to Congress next me thinks
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hootinholler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 06:51 PM
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14. Hatch act?
I don't get that from this, how is this a violation of the Hatch Act?

The PRA, yes, but there is no punishment specified by that act. However, since the act makes the archive property of the government, there is destruction of government property charges that could apply.

-Hoot
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Baron Harkonen Donating Member (27 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 03:23 PM
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5. It's the cover-up that's
gonna sting these fools.
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Catherine Vincent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 03:30 PM
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8. Welcome to DU!
:hi:
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newyawker99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Apr-14-07 08:11 AM
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15. Hi Baron Harkonen!!
Welcome to DU!! :toast:
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Oilwellian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 03:36 PM
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9. They sure are doing a good job...
of "muddying the coverage up a little bit."

Tasia Scolinos, the attorney general's spokeswoman, provided some insight into the Justice Department's public-relations activities in a March 5 message about the furor surrounding the removal of the prosecutors. Below is an excerpt from the documents that the committee released, with emphasis added to the part where Scolinos says she wants to "muddy the coverage":

In preparation for tomorrow's hearing where six of the dismissed US Attorneys will be testifying, we have drafted some talking points that we were going to insert into Will Moschella's testimony (the DOJ witness) that get out the message that although we stand by the decision to remove these folks the process by which they were informed was not optimal. Right now the coverage will be dominated by how qualified these folks were and their theories for their dismissals. We are trying to muddy the coverage up a bit by trying to put the focus on the process in which they were told - I suspect we are going to get to the point where DOJ has to say this anyway. First, it is true. Second, we are having morale problems with our other US Attorneys who understand the decision but think that these folks were not treated well in the process. I think from an internal management perspective it needs to be said.

http://blogs.usatoday.com/ondeadline/2007/04/ags_spokeswoman.html
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Apr-19-07 12:30 AM
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19. "mistakes were made, sorry..." Crimes were committed-kick
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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 04:05 PM
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10. Andrea Koppel....geeesh
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Apr-13-07 05:40 PM
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13. What is wrong with her....she always has a snarky smile...and catty delivery and
is she Ted Koppel's Daughter? Sheesh. She really doesn't make much effort at "hard news reporting" that I've seen. I'm always disappointed after a report from her.
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 11:41 AM
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16. KICK
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 12:06 PM
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17. Why didn't Fitz impound the server? I think Fitz set a trap
which Rove walked into and the whole damn army of them

It was Brilliant

Fitz had a smile on his face when he said the door was always open

Congress has done their job by showing the server and missing emails
and violation of hatch act

I have been watching this and the more I think about it

Fitz and Congress are taking them down in a I hit them here and You hit them here

Its a tennis match in heaven of doubles and team working
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bobthedrummer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Apr-17-07 02:20 PM
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18. The DoJ is so corrupt that it routinely sabotages tools available to prosecutors
as well as ignores subpoenas for evidence and lies as it destroys evidence-just like the Nazis and other criminal regimes did.

Here's another example of this pattern-in 2004 the DoJ ordered libraries to destroy copies of documents and manuals it had issued about Asset Forfeiture and Money Laundering!

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x360539#441230
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