Bicoastal
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Tue Sep-15-09 09:53 AM
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Anyone else find it ironic how Michael Moore was VILLAINIZED by the Conservatives... |
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...when, compared to the violent, whacked-out diatribes of Glenn Beck, Moore actually seems fairly benign by comparison?
As far as I know, Moore never called for a forceful overthrow of anyone or anything; Beck does it on a near daily basis. Now Moore is a pariah and Beck is a "hero?" Even if your views are to the right, how can you justify this?
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Tue Sep-15-09 09:55 AM
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1. Easy. Beck's right, Moore's wrong. That's how you justify it. |
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It's easy to justify just about anything that agrees with your worldview.
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Tue Sep-15-09 09:59 AM
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4. Remember, one of the main problems they claimed to have with Moore was how "hysterical" he was. |
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How the worm has turned...
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Tue Sep-15-09 10:01 AM
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5. The response would be that Beck is hysterical, sure, but that's because he sees what's going on. |
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Don't you know our country is being stolen by socialists and Muslims, or some deadly socialist-Muslim combination? If your eyes were only open, you'd be hysterical too.
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Tue Sep-15-09 10:33 AM
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You are in the wrong discussion group... Get lost, or go to a repug link.:kick: :kick: :kick:
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Tue Sep-15-09 10:44 AM
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11. Ha! Sure thing. Maybe you should know who you're talking to before you say that. |
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Tue Sep-15-09 10:44 AM
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12. Maglatinavi: Sarcasm is your friend. |
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Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 10:46 AM by Tommy_Carcetti
:sarcasm:
Razors an old pro at the game.
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SteppingRazor
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Tue Sep-15-09 10:46 AM
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13. I wasn't quite being sarcastic, but just trying to explain how the other side thinks... |
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Edited on Tue Sep-15-09 10:46 AM by SteppingRazor
I mean, that really is what a right-winger would say about this. That Moore can be casually dismissed because he's just so terribly wrong, while Beck's spot on in his analysis.
The fact that I know that a right-winger would say this, of course, does not make me a right-winger. But apparently, that point is lost on the poster who told me to take a hike. Ah well.
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Tue Sep-15-09 09:55 AM
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2. "We don't need no stinkin' justifications!" |
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said the Republican bandidos.
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Tue Sep-15-09 09:55 AM
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3. Moore is a threat to money. Beck is whipping the stupid into a frenzy |
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to support money against their own interest.
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Tue Sep-15-09 10:02 AM
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6. Can you imagine how they'd react if he acted like Beck? |
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Tue Sep-15-09 10:06 AM
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7. Add: Moore uses FACTS that aren't pulled out of thin air. n/t |
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Tue Sep-15-09 10:07 AM
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8. Ah yes. But Beck is not fat. |
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Or so I recall the compelling arguement against Moore was.
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Tue Sep-15-09 10:40 AM
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10. Unfortunately, Moore, Chomsky, Goodman, Zinn & Palast were attacked by sectors of the broad 9/11 TM |
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...as being "Left Gatekeepers" i.e. refusing to publicly endorse the inside job angle. Although I know Howard Zinn endorsed David Ray Griffin's first book on the subject.
Moore was relegated into "shill' status for not advocating anything beyond what he questioned and alluded to in his Fahrenheit 9/11 film. Interestingly, several yrs later he claimed he was going that subject w/inside job data ...funny that he's apparently chose to drop that for now. That aside, I've been a fan since Roger & Me.
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Tue Sep-15-09 10:48 AM
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14. His next documentary project was originally called "The Enemy Within". |
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My guess is that he was trending towards the "inside job" angle but then the "financial 9/11" happened and he ran with that instead (so the documentary became "Capitalism: A Love Story").
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Tue Sep-15-09 10:59 AM
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15. Thanks for the heads up |
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Tue Sep-15-09 12:47 PM
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16. Moore Has Fairly High Standards for Accepting Evidence |
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He was offered the letters by Colonel Killian that led to Dan Rather's downfall, but declined to run with them because their origin was not well documented. So I wouldn't expect him to jump on the MIHOP theory.
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