Huh. Did you know that clove and other flavored cigarettes will be banned after midnight?

[charlie]

Menthols are still legal, but they're going to do a study to decide how to regulate them.

Starting Tuesday, cigarette manufacturers and retailers will be banned from making or selling candy-, spice- and fruit-flavored cigarettes owing to a provision in the new Tobacco Control Act.

Public-health advocates are optimistic that the new federal law could help reduce smoking rates nationwide, especially among youth.

But small-business owners — in particular, proprietors of cigarette shops — are frustrated about having to abide by another regulation.
...

"It's generally acknowledged that these types of flavors may be more attractive to kids and sort of help get them over the hump of the harshness of smoking until the addiction kicks in," says Joshua Sharfstein, FDA principal deputy commissioner. "So by taking away some of these fruity flavors, it will make cigarettes less appealing to the young."

And there are more rules coming. The rest of the act's restrictions won't go into effect until at least next year.

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=113031026

[The Straight Story]

1. Well we do have to save people from themselves, and sadly dems are all for that

I didn't like it when fellow christians tried to save me from sinning, and don't like it when our side does it either.

[virgogal]

2. Why don't they just make cigarettes illegal and be done with it?

[WillyT]

15. Ever Hear Of Prohibition ???

The 18th Amendment

Supported By...


The Defender Of The 18th
Amendment. From Klansmen:
Guardians of Liberty published
by the Pillar of Fire Church

Followed by...

Al Capone

Bugs Moran

Bootlegging

Racketeering

The 21st Amendment (Repealing the 18th) BECAUSE IT WASN'T WORTH IT!!!

And the ever popular... and current...

War on Drugs

:shrug:

IOW - Making it illegal will not stop it.

It will just drive it underground, jack the prices up, start a whole new profitable wing of the black market, and get people killed over it.

:shrug:

[Warpy]

18. Nobody with a brain wants to do that

but making them less attractive to stupid middle school kids through taxation, restrictions, and having them taste like nasty old tobacco instead of candy is a good idea.

Keeping the air clean in enclosed public spaces is also a good idea.

However, I want to keep them legal.

[harkadog]

24. State and local governments would collapse

Due to the lack of tax revenue.

[mzmolly]

3. Haven't smoked in years, but when I did, I smoked cloves.

Bumma!

[notadmblnd]

4. have you ever smoked a Djarem?

I would not consider the taste of them- a step in getting over any hump.
They're nasty and expensive. I don't think too many kids are starting off on them.

[callous taoboy]

6. My ciggy of choice back in the day was a Sobranie. Still legal, not doubt.

[LostInAnomie]

5. How fucking stupid is that...

... no one smokes clove cigarettes as an introduction to smoking. If they did, they wouldn't try smoking anymore.

[parasim]

10. Oh no? That's exactly what I did.

I started smoking clove cigs (Jakarta, non-filters). Got hooked to the point of smoking a pack (of 10) a day. Deciding that was too expensive and also knowing that clove cigarettes will wreck you way more than normal cigs, I switched to menthols because they were the most pungent. That was 20 years ago. I now smoke the cheapest "Light" cig out there.

Pathetic, huh? Well, it all started with cloves.

[LostInAnomie]

14. When I was in high school...

... and a freshman in college I would always keep a pack of cloves handy to corrupt all the young and innocent lungs around me. I tried to make sure that was as many people's first cig they ever smoked just so I could watch them get sick. I'd always say "C'mon, they smell like tea. How bad could it be?" and the next thing you know they'd lost all color in their face and needed to sit down.

[havocmom]

25. Used to work with a gent who smoked clove cigs. The smoke almost killed me

Throat would close down, which was probably good, as the smoke also made my heart race right off. Damned near needed to be taken to the ER every day when he lit up. Not a good thing to deal with at work, back in the day when non-smokers just had to deal with second hand poison in the work place.

His wife/business partner finally told him the damned things had to go or he had to go.

[parasim]

37. Yeah, well, I French-inhaled 'em non-stop. never once got sick.

It was the cost that got me to switch to menthols. I really wish I would have gotten sick from them because they started me on a lifelong battle with cigarettes that continues to this day.

[FreeState]

16. I started with Cloves as well n/t

[LostInAnomie]

21. Damn, there's a lot of DUers with iron lungs in this thread!

I surprised no one has said they started out by rolling up a big wad of dried out chewing tobacco.

[proud2BlibKansan]

28. Glenn Beck did

I just read a great piece about him in Salon. He smoked clove cigarettes.

He smoked pot and drank beer at home; he smoked clove cigarettes and drank coffee at work.
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2009/09/21/glenn_beck/index2.html

[timo]

7. does this go for blunts too?

does it cover blunts?

[BuyingThyme]

8. I do all my smoking in the early evening anyways.

[Touchdown]

9. Midnight? Do they turn into gremlins?

[timo]

11. read it

wow how nice just label it a cigar dodge thru the carefully placed loop hole and continue killing people!!

[me b zola]

12. As long as they don't ban flavored chew...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=385x375537

[msongs]

13. u can always flavor YOUR OWN cancer sticks with all kinds of oils etc nt

[WillyT]

17. True... We Used To Flavor Ours With Hash Oil !!!

Sometimes even Honey Oil.

Ah... those were the days.

:smoke:

:hippie:

[proud patriot]

23. oh man those were the days

I remember one paticular party with Honey oil bong hits and tequilla shots ....

:-)

[WillyT]

30. LOL !!! - That Reminds Me...

Speaking of Tequila...

Here's a recipe for ya:

1) Get one of these (Has to be one of these, for the bottle)



2) Drink until empty... not all at once... maybe\maybe not...

3) Wash and dry bottle.

4) Get one of these (but not for smoking)...



5) And one of these (100 Proof works best)...



6) Insert herbal matter (don't be chincy, a good 4 to 5 incher should do) into cleaned out Tequila bottle.

7) Pour 100 proof Vodka into Tequila bottle until just about full.

8) Cap Tequila bottle and let sit for a week or two (if you can, LOL) :evilgrin:

9) When Vodka has turned a lovely greenish color, and when the herbal matter looks bleached and skeletal when you pull it out, your concoction is ready for your enjoyment.

10) Call WillyT on the phone and tell him to get his ass over to your house, pronto!!!

:hi:

Seriously... if you do this, give me a call...

:evilgrin:

[proud patriot]

36. Very interesting

:think:

[DatManFromNawlins]

19. Dumbasses

This will not change anyone's smoking habits, nor will it reduce the number of smokers. Instead, it will create a black market for flavored tobacco products.

When states started raising the tax rates sky high on packs of cigarettes, people simply started importing them from overseas. They'll do the same thing with flavored cigarettes.

[kelly1mm]

20. It is really easy to grow your own tobacco in the southern 2/3rds of the US. I have

for three years now. All I buy are cig tubes at $2.70 per carton. I have a pipe so I could do away with that expense as well. Same with beverages. I got 10 gallons of cider fermenting in the basement and several cases of home brew and homemade wine to tide me over. I could make hard liqueur but that would be illegal without BATF approval. }(

I'm not paying any taxes at all (sorry schip kids/feds/state) - you killed the goose that lays the golden eggs.

It really is easy to do these things - lots of information on the net. Think not only about the amount of $ you will save (could be thousands) but also that you know exactly what you are consuming. It is a fun hobby too.

[Frank Booth]

22. What are goths going to do?

Or are they still smoking those? Actually, do goths even exist anymore, or did it end when they started selling their clothes at the mall?

[Rick Myers]

26. We should call the Sisters of Mercy Hotline!!!

Dominion...

[comrade snarky]

33. No need to call

I only have a slight case of overbombing

Old Goths Unite... to mock the emos mercilessly.


:edited to be funnier

[Frank Booth]

34. Floodland's a great album.

[Codeine]

35. Hot metal and methadrine. nt

[SpookyCat]

29. LOL! We are still here, but we grew up and smoke flavored mini cigars now.

I panicked reading that article until I saw that mini cigars are spared. So my Al Capone Sweets are safe! Whew!

As for Hot Topic, well, South Park dealt with that pretty well. :rofl:

[madrchsod]

27. i liked clove cigs and i used to smoke other flavored cigs....but

that was 25 years ago.

[armyowalgreens]

31. I love cloves.

:cry:

[SpookyCat]

32. I did not know that.

I will miss the smell of cloves outside of clubs (nostalgia) but honestly those things are pretty awful. As much as I bristle at nanny state, those flavored cigs are pretty much meant to snag children.