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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 01:55 PM
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Pastor Winkler's wife Jumps The Shark: "My Ugly Came Out" when she killed her husband
Murdered Pastor's Wife: 'My Ugly Came Out'
By Beth Rucker
AP Writer
April 13, 2007

CBNNews.com - SELMER, Tenn. (AP) - A preacher's wife told authorities she shot her husband after a long buildup of domestic problems, according to an audiotape that prosecutors played Friday at her murder trial.

Mary Winkler, 33, can be heard crying as she is questioned by Alabama officials a day after her husband, Matthew, was found shot dead in the parsonage of his church in this western Tennessee town.

She was arrested on the Alabama coast, about 340 miles away, with their three young daughters.

Investigators have said she admitted shooting her husband on March 22, 2006, and that it had something to do with his constant criticism. On the tape, she says the couple's domestic problems had reached a boiling point after many years of conflict.

"It's just a lot of stupid stuff," she said. "I love him dearly, but gosh, he just nailed me in the ground. ... The first of our marriage, I just took it like a mouse, didn't think anything different. My mom just took it from my dad - that stupid scenario."

But Winkler said she got a job at the post office and that experience taught her to stand up for herself. "That's the problem. I have nerve now, and I have self-esteem. My ugly came out."

More:
http://www.cbn.com/CBNnews/137637.aspx
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Sadie4629 Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:14 PM
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1. What is it about working for the post office--
--that brings out the ugly?
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jdadd Donating Member (950 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:25 PM
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2. Winkler said she got a job at the post office......
Hmmmmm that explains it!!
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:27 PM
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3. Domestic violence is nothing to snark about.
I can't tell if he hit her, but, from her comments, it certainly sounds like he was, in the least, mentally abusive.

That doesn't excuse her killing him - but I can at least understand better why she felt trapped.
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Sadie4629 Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:31 PM
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5. Emotional abuse is seen very differently from physical abuse
Even by the professionals. Emotional abuse may not be life-threatening, but it can do significant damage to a woman's psyche. This is all part of the fundy "submissiveness" schtick. The husband is lord and master, and the wife has to lick his shoes. Sickening.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:36 PM
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8. The emotional abuse that accompanies physical abuse
is often the more damaging. Bruises heal. Years of being told you're nothing, worthless, only capable of providing orifices and cleaning toilets mount up.

That job told her she wasn't nothing, worthless, only capable blah blah. That just made the whole thing worse.

She won't be able to claim spousal abuse without broken bones. It's hard enough to plead with broken bones.

Yes, she should have left as soon as she got the job. She was probably afraid of losing her daughters to an emotionally abusive man. What judge is going to turn a preacher down?
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:31 PM
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4. Sad that she calls standing up for herself "ugly"
And having self-esteem is not ugly.
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Sadie4629 Donating Member (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:32 PM
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6. Maybe I mis-read the article
Thought she was referring to killing him as "the ugly."
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rurallib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:35 PM
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7. Maybe I misread this line
"That's the problem. I have nerve now, and I have self-esteem. My ugly came out."
Sounded to me like she is calling self esteem ugly.
Whatever, sounds like the husband could not handle anything but a subservient woman.
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:39 PM
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10. That's the way I read it...it was the "ugliness" inside that came out
when she killed him.

Emotional abuse is serious stuff and it goes both ways. People lash out when others don't meet their expectations, and refuse to see their own faults. Apparently she came from an abused home, and walked into an abusive one. These these scenarios pan out far more often than we hear about, and usually don't end in murder. It is a shame she didn't just get out of the relationship, and seek help in any of a myriad of other ways....:(
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:36 PM
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9. that troubles me and i`m not sure what she meant
Edited on Sun Apr-15-07 02:37 PM by madrchsod
self esteem or that she repressed her anger for so long it turned "ugly".
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