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rodeodance Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 01:59 PM
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"He told Domenici he would fire Iglesias only on orders from the president."





................In the spring of 2006, Domenici told Gonzales he wanted Iglesias out.
Gonzales refused. He told Domenici he would fire Iglesias only on orders from the president.
At some point after the election last Nov. 6, Domenici called Bush's senior political adviser, Karl Rove, and told him he wanted Iglesias out and asked Rove to take his request directly to the president.
Domenici and Bush subsequently had a telephone conversation about the issue......

http://www.abqjournal.com/news/special/554986nm04-15-07.htm
Sunday, April 15, 2007

Domenici Sought Iglesias Ouster
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drm604 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:00 PM
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1. K&R
:kick:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:02 PM
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2. Smoking gun?
NGU.


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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:07 PM
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4. nongonococcal urethritis (NGU)?
tried googling your acronym to avoid exposing my ignorance
North Greenville University (NGU) - Where Christ Makes the Difference
North Gujarat University?

I give up.
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joneschick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:15 PM
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8. you almost got it
Never Give Up. :hi:
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:19 PM
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10. whew!
I thought you meant i almost got that other thing!
:rofl:
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vireo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:18 PM
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9. "I give up"
:rofl:
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ClassWarrior Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 04:47 PM
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13. I kinda like North Gujarat University.
I've never heard that one before. I also like the unintended irony of "I give up."

I adopted NGU as my motto on November 3, 2004.

Thanks for asking! :hi:

NGU.


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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:02 PM
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3. what was the date of the famous Domeneci "hang-up" on Iglesias?
ten to one it was followed immediately by a call to rove
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:24 PM
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11. just checked - it was one week before the firing
Edited on Sun Apr-15-07 02:26 PM by frogcycle
Wikipedia:
"Prior to the 2006 midterm election Domenici called and pressured then-United States Attorney for the District of New Mexico David Iglesias to speed up indictments in a federal corruption investigation, immediately prior to an election, that involved at least one former Democratic state senator. When Iglesias said an indictment wouldn't be handed down until at least December, Domenici said "I'm very sorry to hear that" - and the line went dead. Iglesias was fired one week later by the Bush Administration."


with the quote above:

"At some point after the election last Nov. 6, Domenici called Bush's senior political adviser, Karl Rove, and told him he wanted Iglesias out and asked Rove to take his request directly to the president."

that puts the three events - call to Iglesias, call to rove, and firing, all within a one-week period.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:49 PM
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12. Now this is a nice noose.
We know what Domenici wanted. He didn't get it. He got revenge instead. And the White House helped him.

All in a single week. Nice noose. Sweet noose. But is it a tight or loose noose?
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 06:49 PM
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15. a loose noose
can become a tight noose

or just a noosance

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hwmnbn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 06:42 AM
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18. Oh no you di-int!!...
nice one!
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donkeyotay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Apr-16-07 10:09 AM
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19. That's a tidy picture.
!) Lean on USAtt for political pressure during an election.
2) Try to get Att fired for not complying, and when that fails.
3) Call the president and get 'er done.

Now the question I have is, "Is it obstruction of justice if you're trying to speed up a prosecution for political purposes instead of trying to block one?" Does stopping and/or speeding up prosecutions for political gain fall under the president's pleasure prerogative? And, does this along with the Wisconsin case begin to show a pattern of manipulating prosecutions for GOP election gains?
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ClayZ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:07 PM
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5. Up it goes! K and R
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:09 PM
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6. And a star is born... K &R'd n/t
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 02:11 PM
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7. Here we go
And it goes up to the top assuming this can be corroborated somehow. Now we have grounds for impeachment that will be hard to ignore :D.
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Disturbed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 05:04 PM
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14. There are many grounds for Impeachment. Add to list.
GW Bush- High Crimes and Misdemeanors.

1. "A Crime Against Peace." Initiating a war of aggression against a nation that posed no immediate threat to the U.S.--a war that has needlessly killed 2550 Americans and maimed and damaged over 20,000 more, while killing over 100,000 innocent Iraqi men, women and children, is the number one war crime according to the Nuremberg Charter, a document which was largely drawn up by American lawyers after World War II.

2. Lying and organizing a conspiracy to trick the American people and the U.S. Congress into approving an unnecessary and illegal war. This is defined as "A Conspiracy to Commit a Crime Against Peace" in the Nuremberg Charter, to which the U.S. is a signatory.

3. Approving and encouraging, in violation of U.S. and international law, the use of torture, kidnapping and rendering of prisoners of war captured in Iraq and Afghanistan and in the course of the so-called War on Terror. Note that the Hamdan decision actually declares Bush to have violated the Third Geneva Convention on Treatment of Prisoners of War, which means the justices are in effect calling the president a war criminal. Under U.S. and international law, if prisoners have died because of such a violation--and many have died in illegal US captivity because of torture authorized by this president--the penalty is death (a point made to the president in a warning memo written by his then White House counsel Alberto Gonzales, the text of which is published in full in the appendix of our book).

4. Illegally stripping the right of citizenship and the protections of the Constitution from American citizens, denying them the fundamental right to have their cases heard in a court, to hear the charges against them, to be judged in a public court by a jury of their peers, and to have access to a lawyer.

5. Authorizing the spying on American citizens and their communications by the National Security Agency and other U.S. police and intelligence agencies, in violation of the First and Fourth Amendments and the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA).

6. Obstructing investigation into and covering up knowledge of the deliberate exposing of the identity of a U.S. CIA undercover operative, and possibly conspiring in that initial outing itself.

7. Obstructing the investigation into the 9-11 attacks and lying to investigators from the Congress and the bi-partisan 9-11 Commission--actions that come perilously close to treason. (Former Florida Senator Bob Graham, who headed the Senate Intelligence Committee until his retirement at the end of 2002, has called this the president's most impeachable crime.)

8. Violating the due process and other constitutional rights of thousands of citizens and legal residents by rounding them up and disappearing or deporting them without hearings.

9. Abuse of power, undermining of the Constitution and violating the presidential oath of office by deliberately refusing to administer over 750 acts duly passed into law by the Congress--actions with if left unchallenged would make the Congress a vestigial body, and the president a dictator.

10. Criminal negligence in failing to provide American troops with adequate armor before sending them into a war of choice, criminal negligence in going to war against a weak, third-world nation without any planning for post war occupation and reconstruction, criminal negligence in failing to respond to a known and growing crisis in the storm-blasted city of New Orleans, and criminal negligence in failing to act, and in fact in actively obstructing efforts by other countries and American state governments, to deal with the looming crisis of global warming.


The Democrats’ Impeachment Road Map

http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YjVjM2M2N2U3ZjJlNTRiZmYzZjJkYzJiN2RlZGQyYjY=
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knight_of_the_star Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 08:30 PM
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16. Except this one is one the American people seem to be standing up and noticing
The rest of the above unfortunately haven't pushed him past 50% or so in favor of impeachment in the polls. This scandal's different, people can understand and don't like the idea of a politicized criminal justice system and it stinks. That and this one is blowing up right in front of the public's eye with the public paying attention, this one will probably be the tipping point. Remember, it was Watergate that got Nixon even though he did a whole bunch of other shit worthy of impeachment prior to Watergate.
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frogcycle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Apr-15-07 11:21 PM
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17. I would draw a parallel to a much-discussed former radio host
but we're all tired of that topic

hey, whatever it takes
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