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ck4829 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:13 PM
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Iran is clearly building nuclear weapons and anyone who doesn't think so is an idiot
I'm sorry, but I am pretty sure that I have watched this movie before back in 2002 and 2003.

Anyone else remember how that played out?

I'll believe Iran is building nukes when...

There is video evidence of it.

And there's some Iranian scientists in there actually saying "We're building nuclear weapons." (And in Persian BTW) in that same video.

And there's also some "Built by Halliburton" stamps visible in the stuff on the background... because that's what really happened.

And there's also absolutely no Al Qaeda terrorists in it... Because Al Qaeda does not like Iran.

And there's also absolutely no Iranians saying "Haha and we're also behind 9/11 too!"

Until then, the 'liberal' media and Republicans should really just keep quiet.
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Stables2010 Donating Member (141 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:18 PM
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1. So what? India Pakistan isreal are not apart of the IAEA but Iran gets kicked around plus the
Edited on Thu Oct-01-09 09:22 PM by Stables2010
motherfuckers would not dare fuck with our gas and no way any of there bombs are making it to any part of North America. Iran will play along and everything will work out ok.
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 10:39 PM
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9. Actually, Pakistan was elected to the IAEA board of governors...
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NRaleighLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:25 PM
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2. Your sarcasm is well taken....
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whoneedstickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:34 PM
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3. For Iran, nuclear weapons mean autonomy and a seat at the table.
They want recognition as the great power that they are in the Middle East. This isn't North Korea.
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gateley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:52 PM
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4. I think they DO know it, but are diplomatically trying to stop them. nt
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Ozymanithrax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:58 PM
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5. There is a long history of predicting Iran will have the bomb in 10 years.
Nuclear Weapons - Western Assessments
Israel and the United States believed in 1992 that Iran would attain a military nuclear capability within eight to 10 years. In 1995 ACDA Director John Holum testified that Iran could have the bomb by 2003, though by 1997 he testified that Iran could have the bomb by 2005-2007. In the mid-1990's the view of the United States government was that Iran was implementing a military nuclear program that could achieve a weapons capability within five years, at the time meaning by the year 2000. As of 1998 the estimate of the US Central Command (CENTCOM) was that Iranian efforts could result in the development of a nuclear device by the middle of the next decade, that is, by the year 2005.

In a statement to the US public made 7 January 1998 and broadcast by Cable News Network, President Sayed Mohamad Khatami said, "we are not a nuclear power and do not intend to become one. We have accepted IAEA safeguards and our facilities are routinely inspected by that agency." Some western observers asserted that Khatami, a moderate cleric elected president of Iran in May 1997, had not taken charge of Iran's nuclear development program. Despite Khatami's emergence as a political figure, developments suggested that he was not in control of the military and security sphere.

In January 2000, marking a significant departure from previous assessments, the Central Intelligence Agency concluded that Iran might now be able to make a nuclear weapon. This evaluation was not based on evidence that Iran's efforts had achieved a breakthrough, but rather on the fact that the United States could not track with great certainty increased efforts by Iran to acquire nuclear materials and technology. Analysts at other intelligence agencies believed that Iran's efforts were still moving, albeit very slowly.

In an April 2004 speech, John R Bolton, the Bush Administration's primary policymaker on weapons of mass destruction, said: "If we permit Iran's deception to go on much longer, it will be too late. Iran will have nuclear weapons."

Convincing the rest of the world that Iran is making nuclear weapons allows the US to increase leverage and strengthen sanctions to force Iran to reduce their support of various Shia terrorist gropus, alter the nature of their "Islamic Repubic, and to be our buddy like the former Shah.

That doesn't mean they are not now making nuclear weapons. But it puts these accusations in a different light. It also shows how inaccurate predicting these things are.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 09:59 PM
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6. I'll believe it when Greenwald believes it.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 10:03 PM
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7. And since we have more nukes than anyone, there's not a damn thing
we can say about it, from an ethical point of view.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 10:19 PM
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8. And?
Edited on Thu Oct-01-09 10:21 PM by Toasterlad
Why do we have any more right to nuclear weapons than Iran?

When we get rid of ours, then we can worry about who's got them.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:17 AM
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10. You might be on to something?
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 08:23 AM
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11. It is a testament to public ignorance of science that anyone could believe they are building a bomb
5% enrichment won't cut it.

Yes, you can make a "dirty bomb" out of nearly any radioactive material - even used X-ray film - but you can also make a very passable bomb using nothing more than gasoline, a fuse, and a large tin can, however it won't qualify as a Weapon of Mass Destruction.
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