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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 11:40 PM
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Still no CBO score for a single-payer bill, hope people are calling Congress. n/t
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-01-09 11:46 PM
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1. Oh, I bet it was scored
But it made the other Congressional plans look so bad by comparison they decided not to release it.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 12:04 AM
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2. That might be, especially when you look back at the old estimates...
listed on the PNHP site.

Democrats took SP off the table back in the early 90's as well.

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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 01:13 PM
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3. Per Rep. Weiner's office this morning they are still working ...
on the score for a SP amendment.



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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 01:19 PM
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4. Thanks for the unrec - HR 3200 will allow 17000 people to die ...
each year by leaving 17 million without insurance.

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redqueen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-02-09 01:22 PM
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5. Grrr...
maybe start a new thread, with all the pertinent details in the OP?

Thanks for this.
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slipslidingaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-03-09 10:56 AM
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6. You're welcome, just using the numbers of uninsured and the number...
of deaths due to lack of insurance plus various CBO estimates of how many will be left behind.

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http://www.democracynow.org/2009/9/18/as_baucus_unveils_health_plan_absent

"AMY GOODMAN: Dr. Woolhandler, this report you just came out with, 45,000 people a year die from lack of health insurance. Where are these numbers coming from?


DR. STEFFIE WOOLHANDLER: Well, this was a federal study done by the CDC. They collected the data; of course, we analyzed it. They collected the data. They interviewed thousands of people and also had them examined by a physician and gave them lab tests. So we have very detailed information, not only about socioeconomic factors like education and income, but also their baseline health, how healthy were they at the beginning. Some were uninsured. And then the CDC followed these people for up to twelve years to see who lived and who died. So we were able to see what was the effect of lacking insurance on death rates and found that, in fact, people with no health insurance had a 40 percent higher death rate than similar people who had insurance.


So this—actually, when you do out the numbers, this implies that for every million people who remain uninsured in this country, about 1,000 deaths can be expected. So, perhaps Senator Baucus is happy with leaving 25 million Americans uninsured, but that translates into, predictably, predictably 25,000 American deaths each year due to the lack of health insurance. And that’s completely unacceptable to me as a physician, and it’s completely unacceptable to the other 17,000 physicians who’ve joined me in Physicians for a National Health Program to advocate for a Medicare-for-all, single-payer national health insurance..."




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