MrScorpio
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Fri Oct-02-09 04:05 PM
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I, for one, am not suprised that consenting adults have sex with each other |
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Edited on Fri Oct-02-09 04:49 PM by MrScorpio
But there are two things that amaze me about it:
When people who aren't involved get indignant about it.
And that someone can think that they can make money from it.
Needless to say, one goes hand-in-hand with the other.
Congrats to Dave Letterman for not playing that game.
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Fri Oct-02-09 04:07 PM
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1. It's not a good Letterman post unless you make innuendos about sexual harassment. |
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Fri Oct-02-09 04:32 PM
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2. I agree with you, Mr. Scorpio. |
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Men and women have been getting together since time began. Mostly, I'm inclined to believe, because both men and women WANT to get together. I know, I know that evildoers have essentially blackmailed underlings to do their bidding.. ...but, If Letterman had been consistently using his power on his show as some sort of sexual imperative, I really think that one of his "victims" (if, in fact, there were a whole lot more than one or two) would have made a great big fuss by now. I find David Letterman very attractive, mostly because he's intelligent and funny. Hell, I find most intelligent and funny men very attractive. Surely a woman who happens to work for him could find him very attractive and be agreeable to a romance without being victimized or feeling "forced"! And please, let's just admit it ladies. Power is very sexy. Even the power of a slightly off the wall comedian. Or am I hopelessly stupid?
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Fri Oct-02-09 04:35 PM
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It's about bigotry and control and rape and the moon and patriarchy and words with "bag" as a syllable and Susan Boyle and rap music and Justin Timberlake and indigo children.
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Fri Oct-02-09 04:38 PM
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5. And about speaking truth to power. nt |
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Sat Oct-03-09 12:03 PM
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don't forget the projecton :)
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Sat Oct-03-09 11:50 AM
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17. It all starts with french fry boundaries |
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Edited on Sat Oct-03-09 11:51 AM by woo me with science
mercilessly violated.
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Fri Oct-02-09 04:37 PM
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4. i havent been in any letterman threads, and this is last. i am glad he did what he did too. |
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Edited on Fri Oct-02-09 04:38 PM by seabeyond
i know next to nothing but exortion of money.... heard it on radio this morning. all of a sec.
not sure what it is all about, just know he went public
i can respect that
last letterman thread, lol
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Sat Oct-03-09 01:45 AM
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7. When one of the adults is the boss of the other |
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"consenting" should be viewed with a grain of salt.
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Sat Oct-03-09 07:33 AM
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8. Exactly, sex between a boss and a subordinate gives new meaning to "consenting". n/t |
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Sat Oct-03-09 08:20 AM
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10. I have been sexually pursued by women both above and below me at work |
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I think the observation I am straight, unmarried and apparently pretty cool was of a little more interest to these women than the power dynamics of the situation.
I personally think office romances are a terrible idea, but whatever.
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Sat Oct-03-09 10:26 AM
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13. You should have complained to HR |
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Women, as well as men like to pursue attractive people. And while you could ignore a subordinate or, simply tell her that it was not going to work, your superior should have been put on notice.
There have been CEOs who were fired for a "consenting" affair with subordinates.
Yes, office romance is a terrible idea. Even if between two people with no line of command between them, it affects the whole office dynamics.
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Sat Oct-03-09 03:16 PM
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Only one of the instances terribly bothered me, and it was really, really weird and nobody would have believed me as the woman in question was openly a lesbian.
In most cases I just said either "I am seeing somebody" or "I don't want your husband to tear my balls off" and that was usually the end of it for a while. Some were more persistent than others but only one ever completely crossed the line.
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Sat Oct-03-09 07:53 AM
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9. The way he did that really gave me new respect for him. |
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I am amazed at the coverage about this - he must be the only TV personality ever to fool around.
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Sat Oct-03-09 08:33 AM
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11. Fortunately for Letterman, most people don't seem to agree with you |
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His humor is rooted in things people are shocked about and personal issues that they are interested in. Letterman has ridiculed Bill Clinton, John Edwards, Eliot Spitzer, Larry Craig, etc. And unfortunately for Letterman one of his colleagues who was unscrupulous and in dire need of money recognized the irony and tried to cash in.
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Sat Oct-03-09 10:32 AM
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14. Perfect description (nt) |
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Sat Oct-03-09 12:37 PM
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20. His humor is rooted in ridiculing people who become indignant or who try to profit |
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Edited on Sat Oct-03-09 12:38 PM by EFerrari
not in agreeing with them.
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Sat Oct-03-09 09:00 AM
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12. well this topic is generating some interesting banner ads |
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Edited on Sat Oct-03-09 09:01 AM by Sen. Walter Sobchak
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Sat Oct-03-09 10:47 AM
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15. The indignation is because intelligent people know the fall out of these situations |
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I have no problem with two consenting adults having sex.
Two unmarried folks screwing around, no one cares.
I don't generally care if people I don't know are messing around, married or not.
However I have seen the fallout of such situations.
Broken marriages and heartbroken children.
The lack of trust or faith in the individuals involved. Also, if you are a coworker of mine and I know you are screwing around on your spouse without dealing with the problems in your marriage, or with you that cause you to do this; I begin to wonder how mature you are about work based decisions and I may second guess the judgement of that individual. (sorry that is one of the side effects)
When a boss is getting sex from subordinates, it is even more icky and to be honest I have seen the fall out in those situations. Women who feel used and abused even if they get a new office and a raise. Men who have been abused who start to wonder the same.
I can't tell you the number of times I have seen families broken up over office romances that ended up going no where. Typically relationships that break up marriages do not often fare well based on what I have seen.
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Sat Oct-03-09 12:10 PM
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that there are many civil litigation lawyers buzzing around these woman hoping to file multi-million dollar sexual harrassment suits. While the timing of such lawsuits would certainly be suspicious it won't stop it from happening.
Consensual sex is no longer the issue, sad to say. It will now become about how "consensual" it really was and how much money can be made from it.
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Sat Oct-03-09 11:12 AM
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16. Yes but there are people that spend long tortured nights trying to figure out how to control that. |
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To think that they could have had sex or even a V-8 instead.
:rofl:
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