ZombieHorde
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Fri Oct-02-09 05:57 PM
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Poll question: How do you feel about this definition of 'hate group' I pulled from Wikipedia? |
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hate_group A hate group is an organized group or movement that advocates physical or verbal aggression toward or refusal to interact with persons on the basis of those persons' possession and/or exhibition of a certain characteristic. Many hate groups espouse or rhetorically appeal to the proposition that persons exhibiting the characteristic in question are members of a group of persons exhibiting that characteristic, regardless of whether that group's existence, boundaries, and set of members are self-proclaimed or are instead merely alleged by the hate group to possess an independent existence arising from conceptual distinctions that the hate group draws. Such hate groups then frequently invoke membership in that group as a conceptually or rhetorically distinct basis for discrimination, both against the (alleged) group as a whole and against its individual members.
Characteristics frequently invoked by hate groups as a basis for discrimination include the possession of, profession of, or identification with a particular ethnic origin, religion, sex, and/or sexual orientation (usually as opposed to another characteristic within the same category that the hate group prefers), along with membership in a group or class corresponding to the set of persons exhibiting that characteristic or characteristics.
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Fri Oct-02-09 06:01 PM
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1. If I organized a group against rapists, would it be a hate group per that definition? |
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Edited on Fri Oct-02-09 06:12 PM by BlooInBloo
If so, then that definition is too inclusive.
Surely you able to easily think of dozens of test cases like this on your own.
Pro tip: For any fix you come up with, there will be another example that breaks it. People's idea of what a definition is, and what they're for, is really, really bad.
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Fri Oct-02-09 06:03 PM
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2. Kind of like the definition of Latin America |
ZombieHorde
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Fri Oct-02-09 06:08 PM
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3. "would it be a hate group per that defiition?" |
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I think an anti-rapist group may be considered a hate group by that definition. Especially if the group made statements such as, "rapists are assholes."
DU may be a hate group by the current Wikipedia definition.
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Tue Apr 30th 2024, 05:33 PM
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