unkachuck
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Sat Oct-03-09 08:37 PM
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Poll question: Birth Permits Two? |
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The concept of a birth permit is not very popular. Let's assume over population is a problem. What below best reflects your feelings.
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FreakinDJ
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Sat Oct-03-09 09:46 PM
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1. Every problem the world has can be traced to Over-Population |
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Sat Oct-03-09 11:39 PM
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Edited on Sat Oct-03-09 11:39 PM by spoony
I just want to see if your hypothesis works, so maybe you could tie the two and explain why without over-population this problem wouldn't be.
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Sat Oct-03-09 09:50 PM
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2. Other - I made the choice not to reproduce |
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I do not believe it is correct for government or people to make that decision for others.
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Sat Oct-03-09 11:06 PM
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3. Birth permits are impossible while pregnancy is random. |
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I remember reading back in the 90's about some research being done by the biomeds into a "permanent pill". The idea was sort of a pregnancy innoculation...a shot that permanently shuts down the monthly ovulation cycle. Instead of taking a pill to AVOID getting pregnant, women would instead take a pill to ENABLE ovulation when they were ready to have a kid. Something like that, on a global level, would solve the problem.
Then again, it would also probably trigger WWIII, which would solve the population problem in other ways.
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Sat Oct-03-09 11:09 PM
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4. Involuntary human population reduction has happened and will happen again in the future. |
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Sat Oct-03-09 11:53 PM
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6. Make sex education, family planning, birth control, |
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and abortion services available, easily accessible, and affordable to ALL women. Like FreakinDJ said, "Every problem the world has can be traced to Over-Population". Put an end to unwanted pregnancies. Quit forcing poor women into having babies they can't afford. Stop guilting anyone into having babies they don't want.
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Sun Oct-04-09 12:53 AM
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some other positive and life-enhancing measures go right along with it. Having education and job opportunities available for women cuts population growth in _every_ society where it happens.
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Sun Oct-04-09 12:13 AM
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7. Something will have to be done or there will be consequences that are worse |
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Edited on Sun Oct-04-09 12:20 AM by TheKentuckian
Pretending this away is nonsense, the amount of land and resources required per human (yes, even those that live simply) is high as hell. This is why there are increasing animal attacks and fires. We are pushing everything else to the brink. There probably isn't 7 billion of anything else our size much less 7 billion anythings our size that at minimum require agriculture.
If you think this isn't a problem it is direct statement of not giving a shit about the rest of life on the planet, straight up. We need to at the very least acclimate to the discussion so that we can make a rational choice before the situation is so out of hand that only bad choices are left. Their is inherently a finite amount of people the Earth can support, what is that upper limit according to naysayers? If 7 billion isn't a problem is 14, 20, 50, or a 100? Can the world support a trillion humans?
We can obviously get some mileage beating back poverty, increasing education, and making birth control available and encouraged, all of which have an effect on reducing the birth rate but there are so many of us already that without a massive die off the life web is severely strained.
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Sun Oct-04-09 12:56 AM
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9. Empowering women reduces family size |
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That's what I hear. I think critical thinking does as well. Somehow, assuming the role of obedient chattel seems to induce breeding.
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Sun Oct-04-09 12:57 AM
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10. Stop the rich from breeding (no surrogates or anything like that allowed either) |
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Edited on Sun Oct-04-09 01:00 AM by anonymous171
It would also help fix our wealth distribution problem. No more dynasties.
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Sun Oct-04-09 02:46 AM
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11. Birth permits? Chilling! |
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Before you go supporting these things, think long and hard about whether your parents would have gotten one.
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