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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 10:52 AM Original message |
The American Left Does Not Exist - Or At Least Not In the Way It Seems - Dave Sirota |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 10:55 AM Response to Original message |
1. Insightful. |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Yep. |
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omega minimo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 10:58 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. So Baucus' guy helps Rahm "ram it through" and the real left that warned about DINOs faded out...... |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 11:01 AM Response to Reply #3 |
4. We liberals have no TRUE representation within the leadership of the Senate. None with SPINE. eom |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 11:03 AM Response to Reply #4 |
7. I can think of a few in the house that speak for me, certainly not my rep, but that's about it. |
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Prism (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #1 |
45. Yes, exactly this: |
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leveymg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 11:01 AM Response to Original message |
5. We exist, alright, it's just that few of us pass through the membrane of the DC bubble |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 11:02 AM Response to Original message |
6. "America has one political party with two right wings." Gore Vidal |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 11:09 AM Response to Original message |
8. OUCH! Paul Kirk is a pharma lobbyist? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 11:10 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Yup. I could've sworn I read that here on DU... |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:25 PM Response to Reply #9 |
33. Deleted message |
asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 11:18 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. It's okay because he was Teddy's good friend. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. not like NO CHILD LEFT BEHIND, no. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 11:21 AM Response to Original message |
11. too bad he ruins some good points by lying. Van Jones was NOT fired |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 11:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. He wasn't fired? |
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starroute (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
13. Are we damned if we do and damned if we don't? |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. You ask a lot of good questions. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Nope! No more capitulation because we've morphed into ONE right wing duopoly. |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 12:35 PM Response to Original message |
16. K&R. //nt |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
17. Yawn....Rahm is President. No guts to blame it on Obama solely when someone is unhappy with him? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. Obama is (pathologically?) conflict averse- Rahm is not |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
20. And how do you know that, you have a bug in the Oval Office? |
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ellenfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:01 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. obama always said he would move our 'war' effort back to |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
24. I am just making the point that when I disagree with Obama on something that we should look at |
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ellenfl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 08:48 PM Response to Reply #24 |
50. i agree about getting out of afghanistan but |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. The evidence is there for anyone to observe re: conflict aversion |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. So gatekeeping = President Emmanuel? Then what is Sirota trying to infer? |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #29 |
38. He's abserving that progressives are being denied "seats at the table" |
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Ardent15 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 09:04 PM Response to Reply #38 |
53. Yep. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:04 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. Yep. I ignore it as soon as I see Rahm conspiracies. Got enough of the Obambi crap from Clinton |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #23 |
26. So you don't see the role of Chief of Staff as important to policy direction? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. I don't see Obama as a puppet, and all who do can fuck off... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #28 |
34. Who said anything about a puppet? |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. (yawn) Ok.... You folks don't typically use the *word* "puppet", since it's too transparent... |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #37 |
42. Seems nuance and details excape some folks |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:43 PM Response to Reply #42 |
43. Moar bitter tears plz - MOAR! |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
46. As if I was ever a Hillary supporter! Or as if most progressives were |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. i learned to never underestimate the venom stored up from the primaries. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Of course. Even though the current fashion rage is to pretend it doesn't exist... |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #35 |
36. the bitter tears are like nectar for my soul. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #35 |
41. lemon soup sounds gross. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
18. Here are President Obama's top 10 donors |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #18 |
25. Golden Sacs gave $1mil, now why doesn't that surprise me |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #25 |
30. That was my wake-up call |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #18 |
44. All I can say is, yep that's it. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
31. President Emanuel? sirota jumps the shark. doesn't have the stones to go after O directly? |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:32 PM Original message |
oh dont doubt. tweedle dee n tweedle dummer are a daily sideshow |
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DireStrike (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 08:55 PM Response to Reply #31 |
52. I would say that it is as good as a direct attack |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 10:19 PM Response to Reply #31 |
55. That is a direct attack, just as "President Cheney" was an attack on B*sh. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
39. when will this side ever learn from its mistakes |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
40. "the American Left has made the party, not the policy, the objective" |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
47. K&R.....Strong read. |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #47 |
48. Thank you my friend. |
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tomp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:37 AM Response to Reply #47 |
57. "Election 2008 was a crushing defeat for Liberals/Progressives/The Left." |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
49. I still can't believe that people are Surprised that the Obama administration is Centrist |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #49 |
56. I think a lot of us hoped that his brains and talent would drag him leftward. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 09:41 AM Response to Reply #49 |
58. BULL! "Obama was a centrist even more of a corporatist than Clinton" You apparently know nothing abo |
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Ardent15 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
51. Actual progressives are too dangerous for the powers that be.. |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Oct-06-09 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
54. K & R nt |
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femrap (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Oct-07-09 10:31 AM Response to Original message |
59. David doesn't blame |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Oct-09-09 08:55 PM Response to Original message |
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