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Jkid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:36 PM
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If the Dow Jones reaches 10,000 and there is no report of any job growth this week.
Edited on Tue Oct-06-09 04:37 PM by Jkid
I'll going to make another thread with the words "JOBLESS RECOVERY" repeatedly, on that single message.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:38 PM
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1. Why the wait????
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Jkid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:39 PM
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5. You can't be too sure.
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:46 PM
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8. Saved you the trouble
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Jkid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:53 PM
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13. Oh, swell
At least that's out of the way.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:39 PM
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2. The 1% is still recovering ,,since last year.
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 05:45 PM
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20. Dat's what doze recovery numbers is all about! nt
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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:39 PM
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3. Inflationary pressure
The stock market rising has more to do with the dollar falling than any actual return of investment.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:39 PM
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4. Man you live on the edge, don't you?
What a wild man!
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Jkid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:41 PM
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6. No, not really
I'm just an college student who lost hope years ago. Obama did change a lot of non-controversial stuff, but for the real change (the two wars Iraq and Afghanistan), he already did an about face by staying the course.
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ret5hd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:46 PM
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7. Yeah, but promising to author an anonymous post on the internet!!!
I almost believe you aren't really serious! If you do though (and I see it) I'll write a response. (see, i got some of those balls too!)
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:48 PM
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9. I usurped him.
check GD
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:49 PM
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10. You're just "an" college student who lost hope years ago?
Edited on Tue Oct-06-09 04:50 PM by tjwash
LOL...you may want to get someone to proofread your resume. ;)
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:15 PM
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23. Did you take a economics class yet?
Because employment is an lagging indicator.

That means it comes after the stock market.
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:50 PM
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11. The stock market is divorced from the little people's economy (nt)
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RKP5637 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:56 PM
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14. Exactly!
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Monk06 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 05:01 PM
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17. The New York stock exchange is the mother of all bubble machines
Edited on Tue Oct-06-09 05:02 PM by Monk06
Nobody buys, sells or owns anything on the HYSE
it's all manipulated by derivatives traders who
are in and out faster than humming birds.

Shifts in volume and stock prices are meaningless
except for the players. It's like poker addicts
who are allowed to gamble with other peoples
money. There is no incentive to hold and every
incentive to double down. That road as we have
seen leads to more frequent and larger bubble
bulls followed by increasingly sudden and catastrophic
crashes.

The so called sub prime crisis is the worst so far
and perhaps the last as far as the US dollar is
concerned.
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xultar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:50 PM
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12. Well, isn't that because that's the way they like it?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 04:56 PM
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15. With the dollar continuing to sink
what you're seeing is offshore money snapping up stock bargains. When the dollar rises, the stock market will slide.

That has little to do with the economy you and I live in. The assets we have, our homes and small 401K nest eggs, have lost a great deal of value, consumer credit has largely dried up, all our jobs are threatened, and the cost of necessities continues to creep up.

It's the worst of all possible economies: shrinking employment, deflation in assets, tight credit, and inflation in living expenses.

The big banks might have been stabilized by TARP but the small ones sure weren't.

Anyone who says we're in recovery because the Dow is up is nuts.

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 05:00 PM
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16. EVERY recovery is a jobless recovery the first year.
Edited on Tue Oct-06-09 05:06 PM by TexasObserver
Stock prices plunged even while jobs did not show the full impact. Credit went crazy. That was a year ago. Six months ago, about two months into the Obama administration, we started a climb. Now we're climbing and the DOW is near 10,000 again.

While you may think this is only good news for those who own stocks, that's simply not true. It makes banks and other lenders stronger, as it makes their depositors and borrowers stronger. It helps to reweave the torn fabric of the economy. It makes those people more likely to RISK going back into the marketplace to hire back some jobs dropped when the slide hit.

Once the economy crashes, it reboots very slowly. Just as your computer must reboot at its own rate, so must a recovery. JOBS are the last thing to happen in this process.

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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 05:04 PM
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18. This money has to be coming from big
institutions. The "average" investor is not pumping money into this bubble. Wonder how many pensions, IRA's ect. are going to take the hit on this one.
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orpupilofnature57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:11 PM
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21. Average investors become the hit upon , the big institution have a net, us ...
Edited on Tue Oct-06-09 06:14 PM by orpupilofnature57
Working or not they will extract or body parts eventually. http://www.musicsonglyrics.com/P/paulkantnerlyrics/paulkantnersilverspoonlyrics.htm#
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VOX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 05:04 PM
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19. Haven't you noticed that when a company lays off workers, its stock price goes up?
I'm no economist, but I have noticed this trend. Market traders must think that when a company dumps a bunch of employees, it'll somehow increase profit margin.

It's hateful.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-06-09 06:13 PM
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22. that'll be real unique
:eyes:
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