Thank You, John Stewart, For Calling Out Obama On His Cowardly Inaction on DADT

[Toasterlad]

It doesn't seem to make any difference when teh gays do it; I'm looking forward to see if the straights have better luck. Sadly, there don't appear to be too many of you who give a damn.

[seabeyond]

1. it was.... excellent. nt

[Stables2010]

24. No Doubt by the time he is out of office something will pass...keep the pressure on

we got two wars going on the economy is contracting and hes try to pass health care, There must be people at the whitehouse is working on some legislating and are just trying to time it right.

[seabeyond]

29. and this is true too. and having a bet of a public battle with our military as it is. nt

[Toasterlad]

32. Did You See Stewart's Segment?

The whole point was that this issue doesn't need to wait. Obama can do it by himself, right now.

[Stables2010]

90. If he wants a riot and hundreds of homophobes dropping out of the service in a time of war

[Forkboy]

92. Yeah, we'll miss them.

:eyes:

[Toasterlad]

99. Yeah, Truman Jumped the Gun On That Whole Desegregation Thing, Too.

Enjoy your short stay, my bigoted friend.

[Stables2010]

111. I take extreme exception to being called a bigot. "gays" have the right to serve

[Toasterlad]

115. Gays Do Not Have the Right To Serve Openly

Your support for DADT is noted.

As I said, enjoy your short stay.

[Avalux]

2. I defend Obama a lot; can't defend him on DADT. Stewart called it like it is.

It would take NOTHING for Obama to get rid of the whole mess. He is, after all, Commander in Chief.

[TexasObserver]

3. Recommend

[Skittles]

4. you know it, Toasterlad

yes INDEED

[jgraz]

5. You're wrong about one thing: there are a lot of straights who give a damn

And more are waking up every day. It's just sad we don't have a leader in the White House.

[Toasterlad]

9. Hard to Remember That, Sometimes.

But I always appreciate your support, j.

[seabeyond]

11. absolutely. i was gonna say something... let it go. nt

[bvar22]

60. YES!

I don't see this as a GLBT issue.
It is an American Issue.

Civil Rights and Equal Protection for ALL....NO Exceptions!

[dflprincess]

107. Exactly!

If one group can be denied equal protection, we can be denied to all of us.

[shadowknows69]

72. +1 As I said lower in the thread and got jumped on for.

[Guy Whitey Corngood]

105. You can add me to that list. nt

[asdjrocky]

6. This and health care.

The two most important things to me personally, and he's failed to lead on either issue.

[Starry Messenger]

7. recommend.

I'll have to catch it online, I don't have cable. I'm glad Stewart is talking about this.

[valerief]

8. That was a good interview with Mabus. nt

[ProSense]

10. Do you really want Obama do this rather than Congress?

He can set a precedent that this is an issue reversible by the President's whim. When Congress finally passes a law repealing both DADT and DOMA, the next President who chooses to can simply ignore the law and implement a policy despite Congress.

[ChiciB1]

12. And In The Mean Time, He Can Use His Power To Actually SUPPORT

the issue strongly by saying so. And should the next President come in and change policy is no reason not to do something now.

NOW, should be the REAL issue, drop it or support with strength of conviction!

Others think otherwise... I don't. I'm a white hetero wife and have kids of my own. I let them know what I think without in animosity, and it seems to work for me.

[Orsino]

42. That's the point on which I take issue with the president.

I don't hold him responsible for doing Congress' job...but I would like to see him stand up for human rights and dignity.

[Toasterlad]

14. It Doesn't Work That Way.

Presidents issue executive orders all the time. Bush didn't invent them, he just abused them. Obama putting a stop to DADT, something the vast majority of Americans are in favor of, and something he has PROMISED to do, while Congress repeals it, would NOT be an abuse of power. When DADT is repealed by Congress and gays are allowed to serve openly, it would be ILLEGAL for any future president to set policy forbidding them to do so. THAT is abuse of power. Obama could LEGALLY suspend DADT right fucking now.

However, Obama is not content just to do nothing: he pressured Rep. Hastings to withdraw a bill that would remove funding for DADT. He is actively working to KEEP DADT in place, as his DOJ is actively working to keep DOMA in place.

Obama has been a terrible president to gay people.

[ProSense]

33. Yes it does work that way. n/t

[Toasterlad]

38. Well Argued.

:eyes:

[ProSense]

39. Because that is the way it works. Congress is responsible for making laws.

Presidents can act, but they must do so within the law. Again: Is it your preference that this issue be subjected to the whim of a President?

[joeycola]

40. You missed the point. 'in the meantime' (until congress acts) Obama

can get a spine and strongly support this and or issue exec. orders. Now you know.

[Cha]

16. They don't care about the facts..it

interferes with the Obama bashing 24/7.

[ruggerson]

65. yeah that Jon Stewart. What an ass.

[justiceischeap]

23. As Toasterlad said, Obama could repeal DADT now as Congress drafts the policy

that could later be signed into law permanently. There's no reason not to do so unless of course his talk of repealing DADT and DOMA for that matter is just that, talk.

I don't think we're going to get a President to support equal rights for all until we get a President who is either gay, bisexual or has a child who is either gay or bisexual.

[ProSense]

34. You are simply countering with repeal it any, regardless of the precedent it sets.

Face it people want Obama to be just like Bush and ignore existing laws. Bush did it and if Obama turns around and does it, the precedent will be sealed.

[Toasterlad]

37. You're Not Listening

The precedent was set long before Bush. The army was desegregated by Harry Truman via executive order. Comparing the criminal abuses of power committed by Bush to an action that Obama could legally perform, which the majority of the American people want, which Obama himself has SAID he wants, and, most importantly, which is the MORALLY CORRECT THING TO DO, is more than a little insulting.

Making excuses for Obama's inaction on DADT is making excuses for bigotry. There is no way around that.

[ProSense]

41. "The precedent was set long before Bush." Nonsense.

So why was everyone up in arms when Bush did it. You simply want what you want now, facts be damned.

[Toasterlad]

43. You Are Being Willfully Obtuse.

Everyone was up in arms about it when Bush did it because Bush did it to CIRCUMVENT Congress. Congress has already introduced legislation to end DADT (some of which Obama actually KILLED). The Commander in Chief has all the legal authority he needs to suspend DADT. Nothing at all about it would be a misuse of power. He would be acting in accordance with the stated wishes of Congress, with the majority of the American people, and in good faith with the gay people he promised to fight for.

Are you aware that Obama has already issued over 20 executive orders? I don't seem to remember you screaming about abuse of power for any of THEM. I wonder what it is about this issue that has you so resistant to change?

[ProSense]

44. "Everyone was up in arms about it when Bush did it because Bush did it to CIRCUMVENT Congress."

You are making excuses for the President to ignore existing law. Congress can take up the issue right now and preclude that from happening. Why the focus is on Obama and not Congress?

[Toasterlad]

46. Because Obama Promised Us Equality, And He Lied.

He needs to be held accountable. Congress is actively working on ending DADT. Obama is actively working AGAINST ending DADT.

As has already been explained to you, the Commander in Chief (that's Obama) has EVERY LEGAL RIGHT to suspend DADT until it is repealed or until we no longer have troops in harms way. He LEGALLY HAS THAT RIGHT. You are ignoring that fact so you can continue to wave your pom-poms for a bigot.

You didn't answer my question about why the other 20+ executive orders were okay, but this one wouldn't be.

[ProSense]

48. He did not lie. "Obama is actively working AGAINST ending DADT." Nonsense.

Obama will sign a bill when passed by Congress. Period.

[Toasterlad]

49. Really?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/07/30/alcee-hastings-withdrew-d_n_247726.html

Still waiting to hear why those other executive orders were okay.

[ProSense]

50. Weaken? How about repeal

As for the House, Rep. Patrick Murphy (D-Pa.), a decorated Army combat veteran, took the lead in the House on repealing "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" in July. Murphy continues to make progress -- his bill, H.R. 1283, now has 176 House co-sponsors, including eight more who signed on in August.

link

Congress can act right now.

[Toasterlad]

52. And Where Is Obama's Endorsement of this Bill?

And how many gay servicepeople will be forced out of the armed forces by the time this bill makes it to Obama's desk? And why has the White House consistently released statements saying that there will be no progress on DADT for the foreseeable future? And what is Obama's reason for not suspending DADT right now?

Still waiting to hear why those other executive orders were okay.

[ProSense]

53. Where evidence that Obama is actively working against that bill or the Senate bill?

You have none. Obama will sign the repeal of both DOMA and DADT when they are presented to him.

[Toasterlad]

54. I Sent You The Evidence That Obama Is Working Against Ending DADT In the Hastings Link

Not to mention the ongoing evidence that, as has been explained to you over and over, Obama could LEGALLY SUSPEND DADT RIGHT NOW, and has yet to do so over the course of eight months.

Obama did not promise to do nothing to end DADT. He promised to do SOMETHING. To date, he has done nothing but OPPOSE efforts to halt DADT. Funny how campaign promises don't matter when it's not an issue you care about, isn't it?

You have yet to address a single point I've made. You, like Obama, have no credibility on this issue.

Still no outrage over those 20+ executive orders, I see.

[ProSense]

55. The Hasting link is about weaken DADT. Where is the evidence that Obama is working against repeal

The Murphy bill?

[Toasterlad]

57. The Hastings Bill Would Have Effectively Killed DADT By Removing the Funding For It

More importantly, the evidence that Obama is working against ending DADT is the fact that he could have suspended it since inauguration day, and has chosen not to.

How sad that you can't see this man for what he is. How sad that you care so little for the rights of gay people that you can't stop your hero worship for one second.

How sad that you need proof that your president is NOT actively advocating bigotry before you'll acknowledge his immoral and cowardly inaction on behalf of the gay community - for whom he promised to be a "fierce advocate". HIS WORDS, not mine.

You show me ONE INSTANCE of fierce advocacy on Obama's part. You show me one binding piece of legislation he has submitted to Congress, or whole-heartedly endorsed. You give me the name of one Senator or Representative that Obama has called to push for gay equality.

You give me one good reason why Obama won't suspend DADT.

That's what I thought.

Executive orders are fine with you, as long as they don't benefit gay people.

[Kermitt Gribble]

75. Toasterlad, the real reason some are arguing with you over this issue

is they think by Obama doing this through executive order, he will lose precious republican and independent votes in 2012. Nevermind doing what is right. To them, it's all about their guy winning. They're the same people who will cheer for any health care reform bill that passes, no mater what it's substance, just because it will appear as a victory. The same people who were against the Afghanistan war when bush was in office, yet defend it today. You'd be better off debating your shoe.

[Toasterlad]

86. Unfortunately, I Know.

The thing that infuriates me is that they consider gay equality a "side issue", and a minor one at that. It doesn't bother them in the least that they are actively supporting bigotry by excusing Obama's inaction. They don't think about it in those terms. But that's not hyperbole, that's what it IS. If you have the power to make people equal citizens, but you allow them to remain second-class citizens...that is fucking bigotry. No two ways about it. And supporting someone who is doing that is supporting bigotry. It can't be denied. It's fact.

Yet these people would swear up and down that they are not at all bigoted, that they want gay equality, and that we will have it "in time". These are the people whose grandparents told Dr. King that "now isn't the time" and "be patient".

For some people - sadly, for LOTS of people - if bigotry doesn't touch them directly, they find it extraordinarily easy to justify. I should be used to it, but I'm not. The lack of empathy that humans are capable of is a never-ending revelation to me.

[Thothmes]

76. Why doesn't the dumb ass just introduce legislation to repeal

the original law.

[caballero]

73. The thing is, if he's working FOR repealing them, it's a really big secret.

I can live with the issues being temporarily on the back burner if that's necessary but I wish he hadn't let them fall completely off the damn stove.

[Johonny]

25. Yes I want him to do it

Presidential Executive Order 9981, issued in July 1948, had changed the segregation tradition by declaring a policy of equality of opportunity and treatment in the armed services. The order had also created the President 's Committee on Equality of Treatment and Opportunity in the Armed Forces (better known as the Fahy Committee) to study the manpower policies of the services.

I see no reason why the President should give up a traditional power as commander and chief. If an executive order could overturn segregation in the armed forces, the don't ask don't tell for our servicemen should be no different. It's a power he has and should be used. Let congress bring this to the supreme court if they care to. End it now.

[xchrom]

13. if it has to do with this admin -- i don't care any more.

i love my peeps and support them -- but not by supporting this admin.

[Berry Cool]

15. I really, really wish Obama were more forceful on gay rights issues

but something deep down inside me says that he's like most heterosexual men, especially like most Christian heterosexual men--deep down inside, he has the willies about looking too committed to gay rights. I don't know what it is. I just wish that whatever it is, he'd push it out of the way and do what's right.

[Name removed]

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[Cha]

18. Oh yeah, President Obama is such a "coward"...riiiight.

That really helps make your point doesn't it?

Calling the President names is the only way you think you're going to get what you want.

[Toasterlad]

21. Explain To Me Why He Is Not.

That's what I thought.

[Cha]

56. Just because you call him one doesn't make it so.

I know you're hurting and it makes you feel better to call the President a "coward" but Obama has made his position known on this..as in he wants it to be repealed through Congress and it will happen.

Just gratuitiously calling someone a "coward" who has come through all the President has doesn't help your case.

[Toasterlad]

58. Obama Could Have Suspended DADT At Any Time Since His Inauguration

He has chosen not to.

Just because you say someone's NOT a coward doesn't mean they're not...just like SAYING you'll be a fierce advocate for gay people doesn't mean you WILL be.

You have not explained why Obama is not a coward.

[dflprincess]

108. Leaving it up to Congress & being unwilling to sign an executive order repealing it in the meantime

is passing the buck.

Though I suppose Obama isn't being cowardly, just "pragmatic". :sarcasm:

[truedelphi]

19. Mike Malloy was just calling out Obama on this tonight.

Among other things he called him out for.

[VenusRising]

20. Agreed and rec'd!

I have emailed Obama on numerous occasions about DADT, and I don't plan on letting up. Gay rights is one place where he has disappointed me greatly. Oh, he can say the words, but he just can't act on them.

Straight but not narrow. ;)

:hug:

[Toasterlad]

22. I LOVE the Cat In Your Sig!

And thanks for your support!

[geek tragedy]

26. Obama deserves to catch hell for this.

I'll defend him on the hating that goes on here, but this is a 100% legit criticism.

[ruggerson]

66. and it's not gone unnoticed

you're one of the few consistent ones around here.

[gkhouston]

27. "Get a bigger plate".

:thumbsup:

[newtothegame]

28. I like Stewart, but what exactly is he accomplishing?

His audience already thinks he's a god, and laughs hysterically when he even looks at the camera. I know we refer to his monologues as "destroying somebody," "tearing someone a new asshole," etc. But he ain't exactly speaking to any audience that doesn't already want to deify him.

[Toasterlad]

31. There Are Plenty Of People Who Watch TDS - As There Are People Here On DU -

who either do not care about gay equality, or are flat-out anti-equality. As any gay person can tell you, being a liberal does not necessarily rule out homophobia.

Regardless of whether or not Stewart's preaching to the choir, he is a public figure who is reminding everyone who watches him that Obama promised to do something during the election - something that would be VERY EASY for him to do - and that he's not doing it. More importantly, he is a STRAIGHT public figure doing that, which gets the message out that gay people are not the only ones who care about gay people and their issues.

I am EXTREMELY grateful to John Stewart for his support, and his oft-displayed committment to gay equality, as I am grateful for all our straight supporters, the famous and non-famous alike. We literally will not succeed without them.

[ThePantaloon.com]

45. Really? What's he accomplishing? You gotta be kidding.

How about laughter for one? How about making more of a political statement than most so-called real journalists? How about humiliating jackholes like Tucker Carlson and Jim Cramer?

I don't know - I guess he's accomplished "nothing," huh?

[newtothegame]

47. Ok. But how is it "humiliating" or "destroying" or whatever verb we're using that day...

when Tucker Carlson and Jim Cramer don't care, and the people that like them aren't watching?

[bobbolink]

68. Think for a moment, Stewart's demographic is the prime 18-34 group.

Are you seriously asking what he's accomplishing by EDUCATING AND INFORMING the demographic that has been turned off to politics, and is largely uninvolved??

Are you SERIOUSLY questioning that?

Can you name ANYTHING the Democratic Party has done/is doing to reach this age group as effectively?

What are YOU doing to inform this demographic?

[bvar22]

110. delete

Off Topic

[Patiod]

30. This was one straight girl cheering for JS last night

And perfect timing, saying it just before being joined by the Sec. of the Navy.

[Toasterlad]

35. Actually, I Was a Little Disappointed That He Didn't Press SecNav On the Issue

especially since JUST before they briefly discussed it, Mabus was just about breaking his arm patting himself on the back about getting women into submarines. Stewart played him pretty well by leading with that, so that Mabus' later backing off on ending DADT ("we'll do whatever the American people want") came across as more than a tad hypocritical. I would have preferred that Stewart press the issue, but he is generally very non-confrontational with his guests.

[Lex]

36. It was very telling to see the contrast of what he clearly said before the Election

and his waffling like hell afterwards. Embarassing and disappointing.

[ddeclue]

51. SNL nailed that too in their "Jack Squat" bit...

[BrklynLiberal]

59. Stewart was superb.

[shadowknows69]

61. Sadly, there don't appear to be too many of you who give a damn.

As someone who does give a damn that's an insulting statement. I do understand how you can feel that way, but you're not alone.

[VMI Dem]

62. What is insulting?

Does the truth hurt?

[shadowknows69]

63. Fuck you. What did I just say?

I support the op. I just said it was insulting to assume he didn't have any support from "us".

[VMI Dem]

64. He said many. I would venture most.

What do you disagree with?

[shadowknows69]

67. I think you're in error if it's this board you're talking about

But if you can read people's minds then I'm happy for you.

[VMI Dem]

70. The portion that calls civil rights for gays a pony and gay concerns poutrage?

Who needs to read minds Carnac?

[shadowknows69]

71. I agree with you there are some knuckleheads on here

But I'd like to think on a Democratic themed forum that there is overwhelming support for equality for all and the repealing of DADT. Perhaps I went about it badly, but I was trying to let the op know I and many others support him.

[VMI Dem]

74. Fair enough.

[ruggerson]

77. I'd like to think that too

I've learned differently.

[shadowknows69]

78. Well FWIW I hope you know you have my support

[ruggerson]

79. thanks - I know generally there's a ton of straight support

hell, 80% of the country wants it repealed. You wouldn't think it would be this contentious with us controlling both the WH and Congress.

[shadowknows69]

83. I hear you. Of anything I really lost the most respect for President Obama on this.

I know the whole..."We have to wait for a law" thing, but people are losing their careers and he can stop it. People who have bled for the wars he is perpetuating. Trust me. My anger is as high as a "straight" man's can be on this matter.

[Forkboy]

80. Many don't, but many do.

[ruggerson]

81. true

but since it's not even an issue where "reasonable people can disagree" that's kind of a sad indictment of a group of supposedly progressive citizens.

[Forkboy]

82. No argument there.

[shadowknows69]

84. I'll be the first to admit I used to be sort of in the "baby steps are good" camp

But I came to my senses, with the help of some DUers and other friends, and my own conscience, telling me rightly how wrong I was. And if our President has the power to do ANYTHING to cease the pain that is being caused then he needs to do it. Yesterday.

[Forkboy]

85. It's been my biggest strike against Obama all along, and it still is.

[Toasterlad]

88. My Apologies.

It was not my intent to insult our straight allies, whom I value VERY much. My point was that I simply wish there were more of you. A LOT more.

[shadowknows69]

96. No harm no foul. I'm a bit jumpy tonight myself.

[bobbolink]

114. I gave a damn, and got attacked for it,.

Does that matter?

Try being homeless... you'll see just how many of you give a flying fuck about THAT.

[bobbolink]

69. Recommended. Hurrah for Stewart for shining a light on this important issue!

[Tx4obama]

87. Congress needs to do it NOT Obama

The repeal of both DADT and DOMA needs to be done by Congress so that it will be PERMANENT.
If Obama does it then it can be reversed again by the next president.

CONGRESS needs to do it, NOT Obama!

[Toasterlad]

89. Why Can't Obama Suspend DADT Until It Is Repealed?

[Tx4obama]

91. I don't know enough about legislation to answer that...

maybe something that is suspended can't be repealed?
So maybe it has to be in effect in order for it to be repealed.
I don't know.
All I know is that President Obama wants Congress to pass the law so that it will be permanent.
Maybe he will tell us on Saturday in his speech.

[Toasterlad]

97. Then Let Me Answer It For You.

As the Commander in Chief, it is within Obama's power to suspend the investigation and discharge of any military personnel for any reason while there are troops in harm's way. Given the current state of our various military quagmires, we will have troops in harm's way beyond Obama's second term (should he have one). All Obama has to do is say to the military: "Stop investigating and discharging homosexuals". That's IT.

The suspension of DADT would have zero effect on Congress' ability to repeal it, except to show that Obama is TRULY committed to gay equality, as he pledged to be during his campaign. Congress can still (and, apparently, eventually, WILL) pass legislation to repeal the law, whether it has been suspended by presidential order or not. In the meantime, people are losing their careers, their pensions, and, in many cases, their life's mission, all because Obama is too afraid to piss off the extremely small number of fanatical evangelicals that still support this insanely bigoted law.

Obama is well aware of all of this. His silence is as eloquent as his many flowery speeches.

[Tx4obama]

103. Well, let's see what Obama says Saturday.

The Congress already said that they are addressing this issue in the next two months.
Also I read that the amendment would allow for the re-installment of those that have already been dismissed/expelled.

[SemiCharmedQuark]

94. To be permanent, sure. But Obama can HALT the discharges until they act.

There is NO excuse for not having done so.

[Thothmes]

113. Agree. If both houses of Congress are actively

working on DADT repeal legislation, the President should use his authority to suspend discharges under the current law,pending passage of the new law.
IMO however, if Congress is not going to act in a timely manner on this issue, it would be unwise for the President to suspend the discharges.
The reason being, If he acts and Congress does not, what will happen if he loses the next election. President Romney or Palin (heaven forbid) could simply revoke the Obama EO and call for all to be discharged under the Federal Law that is still in effect.

[Toasterlad]

116. So....The Only Downside To Obama Suspending DADT Is That Gay Servicemembers

get to serve for three more years instead of getting discharged immediately?

I don't follow your logic.

[Thothmes]

117. If congress is working on the legislation

should be able to pass it and get it signed within 6 months to a year. At that point, those gay or lesbian service members that had their discharges held up are free and clear to pursue their careers in the services. If congress does not act, or the Dems loose control of congress or the President loses the election to a Republican, any EO that stayed the discharges will be cancelled by the incoming administration.

[Toasterlad]

118. If Obama Suspends It Right Now, No Servicemembers Will Be Discharged While Congress Deliberates.

Did you think the military was going to stop tossing out gays while Congress makes up its mind?

If DADT is suspended and Congress doesn't act, those servicemembers who would otherwise be discharged still have careers until Obama leaves office. Your way, they're tossed out over the next three and half years.

Obama suspending DADT is win-win for gays. NOT suspending it is lose-lose. I'm not sure why you're not seeing that.

[Thothmes]

119. You didnt read my post correctly

If Both houses of congress are working on legisislation to overturn DADT, the President should suspend the discharges. If Congress does nothing, I do not thin the President should act unilaterily on the matter. It can easily be overtured by another administration. Congressional action is essential to actually solve the DADT issue, not the President.

[Toasterlad]

120. You Are Not Reading Reality Correctly.

The Commander in Chief has the legal right to suspend DADT RIGHT NOW. Regardless of what Congress is doing. NOT suspending it is endorsing bigotry. You can't get around that. That's a fact.

Your willingness to see hundreds of servicemembers lose their careers three years earlier than they might have otherwise - because you are against the president doing the legal, moral, and honorable thing - is noted. I wonder what you'd say if black people weren't allowed to serve, and Obama had the ability to allow them to?

[Thothmes]

121. I am reading reality correctly.

The president is fully aware of his legal authority. The fact that he has chosen to not suspend DADT I guess is his bigotry in action. Should we impeach him for it.

[theHandpuppet]

93. Thank you, ToasterLad

I really appreciate that you continue to stand up and speak out!

:yourock:

[Toasterlad]

100. .

:fistbump:

[whistler162]

95. WOW another President Obama needs to be JUST

like Bush thread!!!!

OH JOY!

[Forkboy]

98. Oy vey.

[Toasterlad]

101. 20+ Executive Orders and Counting for Obama

Can you provide me a link to any of those you've had a problem with? Or is it only EOs that benefit GAYS that you don't like?

[armyowalgreens]

102. It's only been 9 months-He's got so much on his plate.-Be patient-Stop whining...

Just be glad McCain didn't win.

We have more important things to worry about.

Change takes time.

He already said he likes gay couples.

This is Congresses job

Why do you hate Obama?



(Is there any other meme I'm missing?)

[Toasterlad]

104. You Forgot "Poutrage"

And there was nary a pony mention. I'm afraid I can only give you a C in Obamabot 101.

[armyowalgreens]

106. How unfortunate. Maybe the professor will let me take the test again.

[dflprincess]

109. You forgot he's playing three dimensional chess

and that he's so much smarter than the rest of us mortals that we have no business questioning him or expecting him to be accountable to the voters.

[defendandprotect]

112. k i c k