Hey *atheists* and *evolution believers*! VT is YOUR fault!

[BlooInBloo]

http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/2007/04/16/how-could-loving-god

"We live in an era when public high schools and colleges have all but banned God from science classes. In these classrooms, students are taught that the whole universe, including plants and animals—and humans—arose by natural processes. Naturalism (in essence, atheism) has become the religion of the day and has become the foundation of the education system (and Western culture as a whole). The more such a philosophy permeates the culture, the more we would expect to see a sense of purposelessness and hopelessness that pervades people’s thinking. In fact, the more a culture allows the killing of the unborn, the more we will see people treating life in general as “cheap.”"


By GOD i love religion!

:rofl:

[Sapere aude]

1. The shooter grew up in China I think. He was not a product of our school system.

We should all stop using this incident to promote our own agendas. Here on DU also.

[Burma Jones]

3. No, he grew up in the DC area and was brought here as a child from S. Korea

[Sapere aude]

8. Well then there are a lot of different stories out there. I heard he was a resident alien and had a

student visa and arrived in San Francisco last year. I guess we will get it right soon.

[BlooInBloo]

14. Doesn't matter, as regards the jesusfreak's issue - he's from a secular society.

[Bandit]

6. I just heard on the news he was a US citizen of Korean descent

:shrug:

[firefox_fan]

32. Nope. He was a resident alien.

Green card holder, not a US citizen. At least, according to CNN.

[BlooInBloo]

2. self-delete

[Arugula Latte]

4. Yeah -- Good thing Christians never kill, huh? nt

[Marnieworld]

5. Hard to sift through that

on edit. I talked out of my ass. so sorry. :blush:

[renie408]

7. That's funny. I am an atheist and also a vegetarian out of respect for animals.

I don't own a gun and think the first thing we should all learn is 'Do no harm.' Not to each other, nor to any thing.

How many 'Christians' bleating about god being taken out of classrooms can say the same thing??

[RebelOne]

30. I am also an atheist and a vegetarian, and I would like to own a gun.

But I am afraid I would shoot myself in the foot because I am such a klutz.

[Skinner]

9. The irony here...

...is that modern, secular societies tend to be less prone to violence on average than traditional societies. (With the obvious caveat that when modern societies get violent, our tools for making violence tend to be *A LOT* more effective.)

[BlooInBloo]

10. Enough irony for a tetanus booster - just like Falwell/gay folks/9/11

[sinkingfeeling]

11. Sorry, but the US has a culture of death and violence that has been raised to an art form by

Bush and Cheney. When we have taught all of our children that the first and only answer to all conflicts and disagreements is 'pre-emptive' slaughter, what can you expect? I just read that the two goons who ejected a couple of people from King George's speech on Social Security in 2005 are using a defense argument that they had the right because those 2 people 'disagreed with Bush's views'! Bush&co. and the Neocons invaded Iraq because of something that Saddam 'might have thought about doing', 'could someday have done', and 'would have done if he had the opportunity'. We, as a culture, glorify the military might of this country and get our daily 'fix' on the TVs, radios, DVDs, movies, and music, riddled with violent language and scenes of death and destruction.

As I've said before, if there were a 'god' in heaven, with compassion and mercy, then he would strike down those who worship death and destruction.

[nosillies]

12. Thanks for the intelligent, thought-provoking discourse

:sarcasm:

Now, more than I ever, I question why some feel it's necessary to poke fun at those who are different and to promote divisiveness through snide comments.

Maybe that quote is idiotic, but so is making fun of religion in one fell swoop.

[BlooInBloo]

15. Wahmbulance alert! A bad case of "you're right, but you're so mean"-itis!

[nosillies]

21. You're too mature and smart for me, I give up.

[BlooInBloo]

24. Good luck finding i-don't-care-WHAT-history-says -i-think-religion-is-GOOD converts!

:hi:


EDIT: I wish I knew more than one smiley-code.

[Warren DeMontague]

27. Yes. God forbid we should "poke fun" at the dinosaurs-on-Noah's-Ark crowd...

particularly when they're blaming mass murders on the teaching of the scientific FACTS about evolution.

[BlooInBloo]

29. There's no discussion possible between the the following two crowds:

Crowd 1: religion-is-as-religion-advertises

Crowd 2: religion-is-as-religion-does


The one thinks the other is a bunch of lying bigoted intellect-squashing misogynistic molesting mass murderers, and the the other thinks the one is a bunch of unfair overgeneralizers.

[Warren DeMontague]

35. And I certainly wouldn't assert that the AIG pinheads are representative of religion in general.

Which makes these knee-jerk defenses of them all the more inexplicable.

[mudesi]

13. And the great media distraction begins (nm)

[jobycom]

16. Ah, this from the "nuke Iraq" crowd, pretending others think "life is cheap."

Sick people.

[BlooInBloo]

17. lol! i know RIGHT?!? lolol!

[maine_raptor]

18. I wish the person that wrote this, not the OP, would answer one question.

If a religious-based society is so non-violent, then would you please explain what the heck is happening in Iraq?

:mad:

[BlooInBloo]

23. AWWW! But I wanna answer!!!!! hrmph!

[av8rdave]

19. Just wait until Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell weigh in on this...

It won't just be the atheists and evolutionists...they'll find a way to blame the gays too. And surely Clinton has to be at least partially at fault...:sarcasm:

[thereismore]

20. Haven't you heard? It happened because of gays and libruls on VT campus.

God obviously hates VT. :sarcasm:

[Ganja Ninja]

22. Another conservative desperately searching for some way to ...

displace their feelings of guilt.

[smoogatz]

25. So let me get this straight--

the argument is that the VA Tech murders happened because we don't teach Biblical creationism in university science classes? Holy shit, fundies are dumb. And it's always amazing to me how quick they are to claim that such events are a)God's will, but b)the victims' fault. You sure do have to believe a lot of contradictory nonsense to be a fundie.

[Warren DeMontague]

26. Yeah, that and porn no doubt. You know what's funniest about the "answers in genesis" gang, though?

"Answers in Genesis" poo-bah Ken Ham:


"Planet of the Apes" poo-bah Dr. Zaius:


Coincidence? I think not.

[BlooInBloo]

28. heh-heh.

[dethl]

31. Purposelessness and hopelessness because of athiesm?

I would argue the exact opposite. Since us athiests don't believe in an afterlife we place more emphasis on the only life we know - our current one. Life is hardly cheap and only religious nutjobs would argue that.

[Xenotime]

33. Dude, what are you talking about?

[yardwork]

34. Naturalism is not the same as atheism

While these uneducated, stupid morans go around bashing everyone who disagrees with them, I wish they would get their facts straight. That's asking too much of them, I know.

[lefador]

36. If these Christian nut-jobs love life so much....

... how come they couldn't wait even 24hrs after a tragedy to push their talking points?

32 people are death because some dumb ass asshole fired all those shots, evolution, religion or lack of in the classroom had nothing to do with the incident.

Evolution and godlessness don't kill people, assholes with guns kill people.

I wish these religious nut jobs would f**k off and die already. Thousands of years of religious rule, millions of people death for religion and they still are trying to push the meme that it is atheist who are behind the carnage in the world.