Bandit
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Tue Apr-17-07 10:50 AM
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Is it a "Liberal" government or a "Conservative" government that allows |
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such gun freedom as America does? I think it is a very "Liberal" government that does so. A "Conservative" government would restrict. That is what Conservatives do..restrict..However it is also a "Liberal" government that cares for the safety of it's citizens and promotes safety measures on all issues including guns..All we ever hear about is fatalities brought about by guns but hardly ever a mention of injuries from carelessness or intent. We need some grown ups to enter politics soon IMO..
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Tue Apr-17-07 10:53 AM
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1. Both political philosophies have their restrictive tendencies... |
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whether you're talking about "nanny state" liberals or "religious right" conservatives, there's people from both sides that are for restrictive laws. The tendency toward authoritarianism and away from libertarianism can be found in both parties and on both sides of the philosophical divide.
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Tue Apr-17-07 10:53 AM
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2. What "injuries from carelessness or intent" do we "hardly ever" hear about? |
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I don't know where you get your news, but I hear about that all the time.
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Tue Apr-17-07 10:57 AM
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3. How many gun injuries in Los Angelas last week? |
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I have heard about a couple of murders there but I haven't heard about any injuries so I guess there were not any. :shrug: How about in Houston?
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Tue Apr-17-07 11:03 AM
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9. You are correct, the media does not normally cover isolated incidents of gun injury. |
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I was careless in making my point.
I think it is unlikely that the media will cover all of the gun-related injuries, especially when there are plenty of outright killings to report on.
But in the case of Virginia Tech (for example) the number of injuries seems to be covered quite extensively.
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Tue Apr-17-07 10:58 AM
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4. conservative... You have cowboy * in office... |
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If Gore had been elected, the AWB would never have been allowed to sunset and there would be more control over these issue.
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Tue Apr-17-07 12:25 PM
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13. the AWB wouldn't have done anything in this case |
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and it didn't really do much of anything - it was feel-good legislation, without any actual results or solutions of consequence
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Tue Apr-17-07 10:58 AM
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Defending a tradition is conservative. Defending an individual right is liberal.
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Tue Apr-17-07 11:00 AM
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6. Maybe if we attacked poverty in America, crime would be less than it is. |
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Of course, fighting poverty is the liberal answer, but the US government has saw fit that it shouldn't address the growing gap between the rich and the poor, the 45,000,000 without health care, the 50,000,000 living in poverty, outsourcing with no viable alternative for workers, failing public schools, decaying infrastructure, failing health care, a general lack of opportunities for poor people, and a lack of willingness to combat bigotry and discrimination in America.
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Tue Apr-17-07 11:01 AM
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esp. considering the adolecsent mindset of its citizenry
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John Q. Citizen
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Tue Apr-17-07 11:02 AM
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8. Canada has gun freedom. But we are a much more violent country than |
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Canada is.
We spend 50% of our national budget on the military, much of it to purchase the lastest weapons systems.
We execute prisoneers.
We torture suspects.
Electing adults is difficult in a population of adolecents who feel no shame in consuming vast quantities of the earths wealth while others starve.
Have you ever thought about running for office, Bandit?
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Tue Apr-17-07 11:08 AM
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10. 17% of the national budget, not 50%. |
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Tue Apr-17-07 11:20 AM
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11. I'm not sure of your source, but when you add in debt interest, vets benefits, |
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black opts/intel and the supplemental off budget military expenditures, and some other areas such as military aid to other countries, the amount is much closer to 50%.
I'll look for the source where I got the 50% figure and post it if I can find it.
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Tue Apr-17-07 12:31 PM
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14. No I have never thought about running for office |
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I have way too many skeletons in my closet. I am a child of the sixties and all that entails.I lived four blocks off Haight Street in 1967 right before being drafted and sent to Vietnam. I am an idealist which hardly works in the political arena. I still believe in the Peace Love Dove Mentality of that era..
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Tue Apr-17-07 12:23 PM
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12. Is that why conservatives constantly bring up the "take our guns away" |
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meme? Because it is conservative governments that do such things, not liberal governments. Liberal governments might regulate ownership to provide for the most security possible, but conservative governments confiscate.
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