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Wed Oct-14-09 04:56 PM
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Poll question: why are some elected Democrats Blue Dogs? |
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Wed Oct-14-09 04:58 PM
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1. easy one this, because they represent their constituents who are more conservative than you.... |
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i thought this one was self evident....
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Wed Oct-14-09 04:59 PM
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3. No no no. That can't be it. |
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Wed Oct-14-09 05:21 PM
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7. only if you listen to them--did you ever try to verify that by looking at polls? |
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or do you just believe their spin?
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Wed Oct-14-09 05:23 PM
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9. WTF are you talking about, just look were the blue dogs districts are |
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look at how the voting as went in the past, these guys are from areas that are conservative or is that to hard to believe.
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Wed Oct-14-09 05:26 PM
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13. and they faked the moon landing. I got the secret files that expose both. |
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Wed Oct-14-09 05:24 PM
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10. the people who want to be evicted from their homes, paid low wages, and not have health insurance? |
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Wed Oct-14-09 05:25 PM
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11. I was looking for that option in a poll. |
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What people don't get is most "blue dogs" likely will be replaced with a Republican if they lose. They won being a blue dog because a liberal democrat polls slightly behind Osama IN THAT DISTRICT.
So take your pick. 20 Blue Dogs or 20 Republicans because you have a snowball chance in hell of it being anyone else.
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Wed Oct-14-09 05:28 PM
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Wed Oct-14-09 05:29 PM
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If you look at where the Blue Dogs are, those districts used to have a Republican representing them, and probably a moderate one, at that. Arch-conservatives got tired of supporting the GOP moderate, and Democratic voters, tired of losing sons and daughters to Iraq and Afghanistan voted for change.
It takes a long time to turn a district from middle-of-the-road to either quite conservative, or quite liberal, and even then, it usually depends on population shifts. Many people from NY and NJ have moved to the Carolinas, and taken their more progressive views with them, dragging the political center of a district leftward.
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Wed Oct-14-09 04:59 PM
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2. because the states that elected them are either that or republican |
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Wed Oct-14-09 05:01 PM
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4. 'cause they where not breast-fed (at the olive garden, or anywhere else) |
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Wed Oct-14-09 05:05 PM
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5. Because people vote for them as such. (nt) |
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Wed Oct-14-09 05:23 PM
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8. If progressives are forced out by people with money as Rahm Emanuel did to |
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Christine Cegelis when he went out of his way to recruit Tammy Duckworth to run against her in the primary, voters are left with only the choice of DLC, Blue Dog filth or a Republican.
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Wed Oct-14-09 05:25 PM
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12. you really are clueless when it comes to what a blue dog dem is |
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how many progressives do you think would get elected in the districts that the blue dogs come from, thses guys were picked because they are center to center right with a D after their name so they would be elected...
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Wed Oct-14-09 05:26 PM
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14. He couldn't do that if there were enough progressives to make it impossible. |
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We need a change in the electorate first.
First and foremost, we need more progressives.
But we also need more progressives who are willing to work for and support progressive candidates... not just go out and vote once the dust has settled.
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Wed Oct-14-09 05:07 PM
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6. Because Soylent Green is people. n/t |
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Wed Oct-14-09 05:32 PM
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17. Because there was no room for them in the GOP |
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And it's not because they need to be Dems to get elected. Look at Max Baucus, in the reddest of red states. Nope, it's just that they can't get on the GOP ticket, so they hold their noses and run as Dems. :mad:
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Wed Oct-14-09 05:35 PM
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18. Because they're treasonous fucking cowards |
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and they have no business in the Democratic party. :puke:
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Wed Oct-14-09 05:42 PM
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19. They are actually Republicans in a Republican district that has |
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a Republican machine that won't let them into the clubhouse. They HAVE to run as Democrats to be able to 'play".
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Wed Oct-14-09 06:33 PM
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20. And Because Rahm Picked Them! n/t |
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Wed Oct-14-09 06:42 PM
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21. Or he may be a Democratic senator |
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from a Republican state who came by his office only because his predecessor had just been convicted of a felony -- e.g., Mark Begich -- who doesn't feel safe enough about his re-election to show his true Democratic nature.
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Thu Oct-15-09 12:33 PM
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22. that was one of the choices |
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All except for the "convicted predecessor" part. :)
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