Help debunking something I have never heard of...

[greenbriar]

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My cousin sent the original email on the bottom. My reply is in the middle and she sent this today... I Have never heard of this before anyone know anything about it?

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I respect your opinion, but don't you think that someone like Irena should get a chance to get the Nobel peace prize also?
By the way, I just found out that in order to be even nominated for the Nobel peace prize, the person nominating you also has to back up that nomination with a 10,000.00 check. I'm pretty sure this Irena or any of her family (if she has any left) does not have that much money in their back pocket, and this is just to be considered for a nominee.
I also think school teachers, like yourself, that work day in and day out with children of all different cultures, religions, beliefs, etc......are unsing hero's, and you do this just like Irena did, because you care for the children and do it willingly.
I Love you, Greenbriar, and I am very proud of what you have accomplished in your life.
Your cuz,

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<<<<<<GREENBRIAR>>>>>> wrote:


I think President Obama’s desire to have peace in the world is much deserving and I am proud to call him my president.


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Hallmark Hall of Fame presented her story in a made for TV movie that was excellent. Apparently high school students “uncovered” Irena living in the US and did a story on her which has been picked up by others. She was an incredible woman.






Date: Monday, August 10, 2009, 1:00 PM

The prize doesn't always go to the person deserving it.




Irena Sendler

There recently was a death of a 98 year-old lady named Irena who,
during WWII, received permission to work in the Warsaw Ghetto, as a Plumbing/Sewer specialist... She had an 'ulterior motive' ... She KNEW what the Nazi's plans were for the Jews, (being German.) Irena smuggled infants out in the bottom of the tool box she carried in the back of her truck and she carried a burlap sack for larger kids..

She also had a dog in the back that she trained to bark when the Nazi soldiers let her in and out of the ghetto. The soldiers of course wanted nothing to do with the dog and the barking covered the kids/infants noises.

During her time of doing this, she managed to smuggle out and save 2500 kids/infants. She was caught, and the Nazi's broke both her legs, arms and beat her severely. Irena kept a record of the names of all the kids she smuggled out and kept them in a glass jar, buried under
a tree in her back yard.

After the war, she tried to locate any parents that may have survived it and reunited the family. Most had been gassed. Those kids she helped got placed into foster family homes or adopted.

Last year Irena was up for the Nobel Peace Prize ... She was not selected.

Al Gore won, for a slide show on Global Warming.

63 years later


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[MNDemNY]

1. Rules. The Nobels CAN NOT be awarded posthumously.

[Ruby the Liberal]

5. Interesting. I did not know that.

http://nobelprize.org/nomination/nomination_facts.html

[WillowTree]

18. And that matters.......how.......since she was alive in 2007?

[MNDemNY]

19. She's dead now, the point is moot.

[SteppingRazor]

2. Leaving aside who deserves a prize and just looking at the facts...

that $10,000 thing is a mistake. The Nobel Prize's Web site explains who can nominate someone for the Nobel Prize here:
http://nobelprize.org/nomination/peace/nominators.html


No check needed. :)

[G_j]

15. no mention of $$

Qualified Nominators
The right to submit proposals for the Nobel Peace Prize shall, by statute, be enjoyed by:

1. Members of national assemblies and governments of states;
2. Members of international courts;
3. University rectors; professors of social sciences, history, philosophy, law and theology; directors of peace research institutes and foreign policy institutes;
4. Persons who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
5. Board members of organizations who have been awarded the Nobel Peace Prize;
6. Active and former members of the Norwegian Nobel Committee; (proposals by members of the Committee to be submitted no later than at the first meeting of the Committee after February 1) and
7. Former advisers appointed by the Norwegian Nobel Institute.
The Nobel Peace Prize may also be awarded to institutions and associations.

[silverweb]

3. True story.

http://www.snopes.com/politics/war/sendler.asp

I don't know about the $10K requirement for a nomination, though. Checking.

[JustFiveMoreMinutes]

4. I've never heard of it.... and Irene needs some award

.... but alerting the world to Global Warming, at least potentially, outweighs those that help a few thousand.

As well, as not all heroes get honors. Period.

Putting some 'sad case' against something saying 'this is more deserving' because it's sadder....

Really is a low-blow and I'm sure there is a logic fallacy to be found it in.

[greenbriar]

7. I figured it was something she heard on Limpballs or beck or something

she is pretty RW

usually I delete her posts but this one had my curiosity

[gratuitous]

6. So, what kind of pull do you personally have with the Nobel committee?

Or is your cousin just trying to stir up hatred and resentment? Not a very peaceful thing to do, if you ask me.

[greenbriar]

8. she is a limpballs follower

I figured this was one of those things

[gratuitous]

10. Not to mention

That it is or was hardly the fault of other Nobel laureates that Ms. Sendler wasn't recognized by the committee in 2003. I think there are plenty of things to be concerned about than whether someone's story was neglected for 60 years. Things like the very real war crimes and crimes against humanity carried out by the Bush administration during the years 2002-2008. Will we have to wait 60 years to learn the truth about people being tortured to insanity or death in our names with our tax dollars?

[HiFructosePronSyrup]

9. Irena Sendler was nominated for 2007.

This person is just recycling anti-Gore garbage.

[MiniMe]

17. We don't know yet, it won't be released for 50 years

[silverweb]

11. She's in good company. Gandhi didn't win one, either.

The story of Gandhi and why he didn't win a Nobel Peace Prize is very interesting: http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/peace/articles/gandhi/index.html

[customerserviceguy]

12. I can't think of any Peace Prizes

given to those who helped anyone escape the Nazi concentration camps. Why would they start now, when the appropriate time would have been from 1946-1960?

[sfwriter]

13. Time and math lost it for her...

The 2,500 lives 60 years ago vs. the 3 billion in the next fifty was probably a factor. Also, thank the right for recognizing the hard work of the International Federation of Social Workers which appears to have submitted her name, though those records are sealed for 50 years.

Social Workers are some of teh most thoughtful and caring people I know. Not one of them is a Republican.

[greenbriar]

14. no, but my cuz is

and I am sure this was a thinly veiled argument against Obama

[greenbriar]

16. thanks for the info guys

knew I could count on ya'll

[dysfunctional press]

20. although she deserved some kind of recognition- how is the nobel peace prize the appropriate one?

what she did may have been selfless and noble- but how did it advance the cause of world peace?