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underpants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 06:37 PM
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14 minutes ago-Karl Rove decries that Obama hasn't already won (LOL)
Obama Hasn't Closed the Health-Care Sale
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704107204574473372635087870.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

Democrats now face a central problem for any governing party: How to pass a major piece of legislation when there are a lot of sharply different ideas about what should be in it. Trying to reconcile what Democrats in the House prefer with what Democrats in the Senate want is already opening up divisions among the party's supporters.

Members of Congress have a tendency to take a hard stand on a particular portion of a controversial bill. That allows them to show a little independence and make a plausible claim to have influenced the eventual outcome. (really Karl they do? oh NOW they do...oh and this paragraph directly contradicts the premise of it not being over yet)

One trick is easily explained. The bill imposes tax hikes and benefit cuts right away, including $121 billion of Medicare reductions between 2011 and 2015. But new spending really doesn't start until five years out (2015) and isn't fully operational until 2017. The bill uses 10 years worth of tax hikes and benefit cuts to fund a few years worth of benefits.

The CBO report also estimates that receipts from the 40% excise tax the Baucus bill would levy on "Cadillac" insurance policies "would grow by roughly 10 percent to 15 percent" a year after 2019.

That's nonsense. If you tax something heavily you'll get less of it. If this tax is enacted, there will be fewer Cadillac plans—and hence less revenue. (oh goodie! Karl still believes in the Laffer Curve)

Mr. Obama's problem is that his Magic Kingdom Health Care World is colliding with reality. There is a big cost to any large government expansion—and the ways to cover the cost of Mr. Obama's plan are limited, unpopular, and sure to anger Americans once they are fully understood.

Ironically, the president who never stopped campaigning :wow: (really YOU are talking about someone never stopping a campaign?)

hasn't made the sale to Americans because he's forgotten a central rule of campaigning: Your arguments have to be clear and credible if voters are to believe them. His attempt to sell health care is neither. He still may win passage of a bill, but he's lost the public's enthusiastic backing.

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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 06:40 PM
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1. STFU, Rove. We won, you lost. Get over it.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 06:40 PM
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2. Karl who?
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BeatleBoot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 06:49 PM
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3. What else does he have?
They'll try to Swift Boat it, I'm sure.

This isn't a done deal.

Nothing we didn't know when we all woke up this morning.

Keep fighting.




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peacetalksforall Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 06:59 PM
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4. See how he does it? Planting. To those who don't know anything, but do know how to recognize
Edited on Wed Oct-14-09 07:00 PM by peacetalksforall
an anti-Obama, anti-Democratic criticizm from a person like him will eat it up.

He is still lying and manipulating.

He must be filthy rich by now. He sure does deliver filth.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 07:03 PM
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5. Boy, Karl, it must just burn your biscuits
that a black guy (and a Democrat!) got elected, doesn't it?
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Ardent15 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-14-09 07:04 PM
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6. Karl, you belong in prison
You sad, sad little man.
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