When the economy is in full recovery

[ProSense]

will it be Obama's fault?

[MiniMe]

1. No, it will be Bush's recovery, just ask Neil Cavuto

[ProSense]

2. I can't wait to hear the spin. n/t

[MUAD_DIB]

13. Sure, but all the job losses are due to Obama. Is that how the song goes?

This is not aimed at you, but isn't if hilarious how during *'s first term a jobless recovery was alright?

It must have been Clinton's fault.


The RW crazies that believe this crap really just need to start walking into the Atlantic and keep on going for a few hours.

Just tell them that Jeebus will meet them a mile or two after the continental shelf drops off.

[HughBeaumont]

29. That excuse would be believeable, if there wasn't this little thing called reality:

http://journals.democraticunderground.com/HughBeaumont/94

[MUAD_DIB]

35. Well, the GOPiggies don't do reality, now do they?

[girl gone mad]

3. Can we at least get 1 quarter of..

increased employment numbers, rising wages, or other non-bubble fueled growth before we start this type of dialogue?

[ProSense]

5. Why?

Obama has been in office nine months, enough to declare him a failure.

[FrenchieCat]

6. Enough for some DUers to want to say "I Told you so"....starting back in February!

[girl gone mad]

7. 1 quarter = 3 months. n/t

[ProSense]

10. 1 term = 4 years. n/t

[girl gone mad]

11. Do you believe that we have to wait until Obama's term is finished..

before we judge the policies that he has already implemented?

[ProSense]

12. Do you believe that I have to wait until after the fact to ask a question? n/t

[girl gone mad]

15. I think it's insensitive..

to try and have this discussion while people are living in tent cities, losing houses and running out of unemployment benefits.

I don't know. There's just something off-putting about it. Like Bush declaring Mission Accomplihed while soldiers were still dying.

[ProSense]

18. Ridiculous. A question is not declaring mission accomplished.

You simply hate seeing the question because you can't stand the notion.





edited extra word.

[ProSense]

20. And if you're so interested in the plight of others

You'll be happy to know that the Obama administration and Congress are trying to address those issues.

[A HERETIC I AM]

26. Where, pray tell, are these "tent cities"? n/t

[sandnsea]

4. No, it'll be Reagan's tax cuts

Since they were able to leap over the 1987 stock market crash and the 10% unemployment of 1992 in order to land squarely in the middle of Bill Clinton's term - surely they're powerful enough to pull us out of recession again.

[Ardent15]

8. I thought it was Bush Sr breaking his "read my lips" pledge that did it

Either way, a Republican was responsible for the economic growth of Clinton's term. :sarcasm:

[ProSense]

9. "10% unemployment of 1992" Yes and the

military met its goal for the first time since 1973, skipping similar conditions in 1992.

[Bigmack]

14. If "full" recovery happens....

... whatever that is... I will post a groveling "I was sooooo wrong" post.

I will invite DUers to beat me with verbal wet noodles.

I think I'm safe, however.

[SammyWinstonJack]

30. .

:evilgrin:

[ipaint]

16. The banks are going to start handing out loans like free candy again?

Because wages certainly aren't moving north of the toilet.

[ProSense]

19. Why can't you answer the question? n/t

[ipaint]

21. Because the word "when" is ridiculous. Try "if" and I'll answer. n/t

[whoneedstickets]

17. Full recovery is in the eyes of the beholder...

I'm sure the bashers will point to some economic statistic and say -- look he hasn't improved 'X'.

[TexasObserver]

22. Some think "recovery" only has meaning when they get hired.

I can understand how the unemployed must feel that way, but the lack of sanity on the topic of Obama and the economy is alarming. I chalk it up to ignorance by those doing the wailing. The sad truth is many progressives are clueless about economics, and many are the proudly ignorant.

[ipaint]

23. This is the recovery.

WASHINGTON — US banks and securities firms could pay a record 140 billion dollars to its staff this year, a rebound in compensations that comes despite regulatory scrutiny of Wall Street pay culture, a report said Wednesday.

Workers at 23 top investment banks, hedge funds, asset managers and stock and commodities exchanges can expect to earn even more than they did at the peak year of 2007, according to an analysis by the Wall Street Journal.
Total compensation and benefits at publicly traded firms that the Journal analyzed were on track to increase 20 percent from last year's 117 billion dollars, and to top 2007's 130 billion dollar payout.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5ihZsfjNmSmIZlAItBU9yui3qzVew

Kudos to the administration.

[TexasObserver]

24. I don't consider such non sequiturs evidence of anything except ...

... your lack of focus.


If you want to talk about that particular outrage, start a thread about it. That's got nothing to do with this topic. We're talking about the recovery, not your pet peeve of the day.

Wall street has misbehaved. I don't like it. I want to see more done about it. But that has nothing to do with the recovery.

[ipaint]

28. Yes, a decade of americans living on credit buying what they can't afford with real wages

and when that credit is yanked and is not replaced by jobs with wages to replace the credit we get a magical mystery recovery in a year and a half.
Good paying jobs we are told will also be produced out of thin air in another year or so. Just like all those good paying blue collar post nafta jobs that flooded the country.

The upper middle classes all cheer because their retirement investments are in the positive and the rest of the workers in the country most who do not have anything close to a retirement account can scratch their heads and wonder what the perpetually well off are smoking.

Wealthy criminals "misbehaved". Another apologist term.

The recovery is on wall street, the bonuses are on wall street and the bill to pay for the mess is ours and our kids and their kids.

Recovery for the majority of citizens who make under $40,000 = limp along for another ten years until you barely see the light of day and the investor class will proceed to steal every last cent once again.

Recovery for the minority investor class with retirement and enough money to pay for their kids overpriced college education = that was yesterday when the dow hit 10,000 and the taxpayer funded bonuses in the billions where announced.

[TexasObserver]

31. Thanks for underscoring my point.

Stomp around mad some more. That'll teach 'em. Maybe next time no one will talk about the recovery without getting your prior approval.

It's a recovery whether you recognize it as such, or not. Your approval or lack thereof doesn't change anything but the thoughts in your head.

[ipaint]

32. Who is mad? Stomping?

Funny how the words aren't used to describe the well off and their 30 year violent stomp on the working class. Jobless recovery is so much more pc elite.

[Ozymanithrax]

25. Of course not. Any good economy will be a delayed effect of the Bush years.

Remember, the good economy under Clinton was credited to Bush Daddy and Reagan.

[Tierra_y_Libertad]

27. If it ever is in "full recovery" he will be a very old ex-president.

[Mari333]

33. +1000000

[ProSense]

34. Now hear this: "The President cannot fix the employment situation"

It's starting.

:rofl: