uh oh

[librechik]

CNN reports the gunman made reference to the sinful behavior of the spoiled rich kids at VT.

Is it possible there was a fanatical fundie motive in the murders? Also, lots of the victims were African Americans. This could be trouble for Certain Folks.

[Fran Kubelik]

1. I must be really dense.

Who are these Certain Folks?

[librechik]

9. Well to be frank, the same folks who produce the fanatical religious ideologues

are the same folks who think everyone ought to carry guns.

But I think I posted too soon. We have only this little hint. However, it is intriguing. I thought I should point it out for future reference. Must wait for more info, though.

[Fran Kubelik]

13. They will NEVER own up to any responsibility.

:nuke:

[ScreamingMeemie]

2. I think, at this point, I am going to take a wait and see attitude.

No matter the "reason", it will never make sense.

[blm]

3. OK - I'll pose the question - Fundie Moonie?

.

[mod mom]

5. Wow that would put a damper on HW speaking engagement with Moonies.

edited to add detail:

WEDNESDAY, APR 04
Bush 41 To Headline Washington Times 25th Anniversary Gala

FishbowlDC has learned that George H.W. Bush will deliver the Keynote Address at the Washington Times' May 17 gala at the National Building Museum.

From a letter from Washington Times LLC President Thomas McDevitt: ''The evening includes a special reception; the inaugural Founding Spirit Awards; dinner; and a Founder's Addre from the Reverend Sun Myung Moon, whose commitment to the need for diverse viewpoints in the nation's capital during the Cold War era led to the launch of the Washington Times on May 17, 1982.''

http://www.mediabistro.com/fishbowlDC/events/bush_41_to_headline_washington_times_25th_anniversary_gala_56313.asp

[tridim]

8. That's certainly a sound hypothesis. Now to test it.

And like almost every shitty thing that happens in this country, it involves a second-degree link to BushCo. If Bush has his way and the guy was a practicing Moonie, the word "Moonie" will never be mentioned in the MSM.

[blm]

19. MSM has censored the word Moonie for years now. It's member of Unification Church

that's been in use when they have no choice but to cover a related story.

[librechik]

11. that occurred to me--of course we don't know yet.

[Monkeyman]

4. I don't know yet with all the bad reporting lets wait and see

I hope the hell we find out the truth soon

[meldroc]

6. Oooh, if he was a Moonie...

The press could amuse itself by picking at all the various institutions Sun Young Moon has bought or corrupted.

He may have to divest himself of the Moonie Times. Bush and Cheney may get some embarrassing picture of themselves with them on the air.

This should be good...

[Neecy]

7. this might be true, might not

Most - not all, but most - Koreans I've known have been very religious, although most were Catholic and not of the fundie stripe.

There are long-standing tensions in some inner cities between Koreans and African-Americans. I hope the speculation about the race of the victims isn't true because I know a lot of efforts have been made to build trust between these communities and this would be so, so tragic.

[CookCountyResident]

18. List of victims

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-ap-virginia-tech-names,1,7059952.story?coll=chi-news-hed

(Caucasian)Ross Abdallah Alameddine, 20, of Saugus, Mass., according to his mother, Lynnette Alameddine.

(Afr.Amer.)_ Ryan Clark, 22, of Martinez, Ga., biology and English major, according to Columbia County Coroner Vernon Collins.

(Hispanic)_ Daniel Perez Cueva, 21, a native of Peru studying international relations, according to his mother, Betty Cueva.

(Caucasian)_ Kevin Granata, age unknown, engineering science and mechanics professor, according to Ishwar K. Puri, the head of the engineering science and mechanics department.

(Caucasian)_ Caitlin Hammaren, 19, of Westtown, N.Y., a sophomore majoring in international studies and French, according to Minisink Valley, N.Y., school officials who spoke with her family.

(Caucasian)_ Emily Jane Hilscher, a 19-year-old freshman from Woodville, according to Rappahannock County Administrator John W. McCarthy, a family friend.

(Caucasian)_ Liviu Librescu, 76, engineering science and mathematics lecturer, according to Puri.

(Asian-Indian)_ G.V. Loganathan, 51, civil and environmental engineering professor, according to his brother G.V. Palanivel.

(Asian-American)_ Mary Karen Read, 19, of Annandale, Va. according to her aunt, Karen Kuppinger, of Rochester, N.Y.

[CookCountyResident]

10. Many of the victims were NOT

African-American.
http://www.cnn.com/2007/US/04/17/vtech.shooting.victims/index.html

[librechik]

15. I know. He was an equal opportunity killer.

But my husband points out the Virginia Snipers, who also killed randomly and happened to get more African Americans, slightly. I'm not making a thesis yet, just compiling some dots.

[ben_meyers]

12. Ismail Ax ?

Maybe an Islamic fundie. The shooter had the words "Ismail Ax" incsribed on his arm.


http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/chi-070417vtech-shootings,0,1137509.story?coll=chi-homepagepromo440-fea

http://www.islamicity.com/mosque/ibrahim.htm

[mod mom]

16. Who are the sources? and what arm was it written on and which hand did he write with?

This administration leaves me so distrustful of information put out.

[tridim]

21. Lots of Google hits for 'ismail unification church'

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=ismail+unification+church

[Blue_Roses]

14. I don't know...

from what I have pieced together from ALL these "news reports" he obviously was just out for revenge on his girlfriend. African Americans being targeted isn't something I've heard yet. The three victim's pictures they showed on CNN were white.

[MissMarple]

20. From the interviews with some survivors, the shooting appeared random.

At least to them.

[Xenotime]

17. fundies and guns....bad combo