Jack Sprat
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Tue Oct-20-09 12:34 PM
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Healthcare reform must have Public Option for all |
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How can you finance this with public funds and not have a non-profit government-run Public Option like Medicare avaliable to everyone? These cretons are counting on another mass ripoff of the public funds for the sole benefit of the private sector. The health insurance industry will be the beneficiary at the expense of public taxes.
If anything other than a viable government-run, not-for-profit Public Plan does not end up in the final bill, I'm for killing the whole thing.
Mandating that private health insurance plans cannot exclude people on pre-existing conditions shouldn't cost a thing. Just pass legislation that forces them to be honest for a change.
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Oregone
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Tue Oct-20-09 12:39 PM
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1. I disagree. Any public option will work. Even if 1% of the population is allowed in... |
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doctor's have no obligation to accept it, its rates aren't that great, and it doesn't open to 2030. Just the existence of one will scare the health insurers into playing by the rules. It will keep everyone honest, even Uncle Vinney down the street who runs a chop shop. Its like magic.
Say it...the mantra: "Public Option or No Reform!"
Its easier than thinking
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Jack Sprat
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Tue Oct-20-09 12:58 PM
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2. Without a Public Plan, there will no real reform. |
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If you want to put your faith and trust in the private sector, it is your business and your right to an opinion. I know better myself. This is another scam concocted and written by reps of the insurance industry themselves. That tells the entire story. You just keep believing.
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Tue Oct-20-09 01:02 PM
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Keep believing what?
I was being a bit sarcastic about those who use the public option as a litmus test for reform, but care little as to the structure of the public option itself. Being that its a compromise position to start with, being used to mitigate the effects of insurers operating in disaster capitalism, it needs to be engineered to be incredibly strong to have any sufficient impact
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Tue Oct-20-09 01:56 PM
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4. Structured on Medicare |
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Medicare could be extended to cover all age categories. Single payer is the structure for reform because it eliminates the health insurance industry who is reaping the profits at the expense of patient care. Socialized medicine should be the structure. Profit in the healthcare industry is the worst kind of greed. Most doctors and health professionals are in favor of a government run single payer administrator to cut down on the burdensome claim and filings costs. The doctors, nurses, and caregivers will not lose money if we have socailized healthcare. Patients will gain better care at lower costs, which is what we should all want. I want to kill the healthcare insurance industry and all its' greedy exclusive discriminatory structure.
Socialization of healthcare is what the insurance industry uses as their rallying cry to demonize it, but it is private healthcare that I see as the demon. I am for Socialism of American Healthcare. Profit at the expense of lives is the demonic mantra of the health insurance industry and its' status quo allies.
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Tue Oct-20-09 02:07 PM
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6. Capitalism is a disaster |
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It is public money that has been used to rescue the unbridled greed of Wall St, bankers, and financial mobsters of American Capitalism. I'm sick and tired of it myself. After watching the last 30 years unveil the extremes of unregulated capitalism, I have become a proponent of Socialism. My take on things now is that there is nothing that capitalism does that socialism can't do better. Private capitalists can't solve problems. They are the problem.
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Tue Oct-20-09 02:30 PM
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8. All capitalism does better... |
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which is its purpose, is distribute the wealth generated by the workers/operations to private shareholders who are not involved with the production. It does not, in itself, boost such production or cause it to be more efficient. It can lead a company to starve its workers or infrastructure in order to satisfy uninvolved shareholders.
Personally, Id prefer to see workers incentivized with such profits, by becoming owners themselves throughout the course of their work. But capitalism...its a scourge to humanity.
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Tue Oct-20-09 01:57 PM
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5. I will not support such a PO |
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Tue Oct-20-09 02:11 PM
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btw, excellent diagram in your reply.
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