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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 03:44 PM
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Do we need Medicare-for-Everyone OR Baucus-care for corporations?


House . . . . . .OR. . . . . . Senate?










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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 03:44 PM
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1. Medicare for all.....
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Jack Rabbit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 03:50 PM
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2. I assume this is a rhetorical question.
BTW, it's spelled Boughtkus.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 05:16 PM
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7. i stand corrected
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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 03:52 PM
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3. Neither.
Medicare as it is isn't equipped to handle the entire nation efficiently (though it is a good starting-off point for discussion), and the Baucus bills doesn't go far enough.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 03:54 PM
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4. My problem with the Baucus bill is not in how far it goes, but that it goes in the wrong direction.

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Occam Bandage Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 03:59 PM
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5. All bills short of full single-payer will be going in the wrong direction,
because they will amount to a preservation of a bad system that would otherwise collapse under its own weight within a generation. It's more-or-less been a given that any health-care bill will be headed in the wrong direction since, oh, 1993.
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Faryn Balyncd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-21-09 04:10 PM
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6. The Baucus bill subsidizes the inefficient and corrupt private insurance industry....
Edited on Wed Oct-21-09 04:13 PM by Faryn Balyncd



Rather than moving in the direction of Medicare-for-All, the Baucus bill is more attuned to Zeke Emanuel's plan of a voucherized private-insurance-only plan which, in Zeke's plan, would eventually privatize Medicare by denying future retirees the right to join Medicare, requiring that they continue their private insurance.

Medicare-for-All would, on the other hand, move significantly in the direction of Single Payer, albeit voluntarily, because of the financial incentives.


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