Transcript of Pelosi Public Option Presser

[sandnsea]

"There will be a public option".

http://speaker.house.gov/newsroom/pressreleases?id=1420

Read the transcript and compare it to the shit that is getting reported in the media.

[Oregone]

1. A universally accessible and affordable one?

[villager]

2. that's what people forget to ask -- sure, there's bound to be something *called* a "public option"

But what will it actually be?

[sandnsea]

3. Read The Fucking Transcript n/t

[villager]

6. defensive much?

n/t

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[villager]

17. and thus your reasoned discource continues. LOL!

n/t

[sandnsea]

18. Uhm, I'm the one that posted the transcript and asked you to read it

It's kind of difficult to have "reasoned discourse" with someone who doesn't want to learn the facts.

Do you think "wittiness" is a preferable trait to inquisitiveness? Bush thought that too. LOL!

Now go Read and Think and then formulate an opinion. That's how you have "reasoned discourse".

[villager]

23. So, your snark is what you take to be "discussion?" No wonder you have a heavy "LOL" finger

As for me, I do cop to the previous misspelling...

[sandnsea]

24. "Read The Fucking Transcript" was not snark.

It was an order. Read it or shut up.

[villager]

25. Translation: "When I'm Bloviating on a Thread, It Is Not Snark. Dammit!"

n/t

[sandnsea]

26. Look. YOU are the one who jumped into the thread with NO discussion.

None. Nothing. Just shit upon shit upon shit I sincerely hope you just think you're funny. Because if you think you've said something that deserves discussion, well just wow.

:crazy:

[villager]

27. YOU responded to a question of mine with "Read the fucking transcript" and an "n/t"

So YOU set the particular tone here. Owning one's behavior is hard, I grant. Politicians don't do it -- why should expect anonymous internet posters to be able to?

:crazy:

[Oregone]

19. Am I a "whiny titty-baby" becuase I wonder if the public option will be an option to all the public?

Just checking. Some people aren't asking the right questions at a critical time. There is some ambiguity in words like "strong" and "robust"

[joeycola]

8. Pelosi is unsure herself (per the transcript)

[sandnsea]

10. Where did you get that?

I got that she is very clear as to where she's at and is bargaining for the end game. That's what she said.

[joeycola]

13. As of this moment she is unsure.....

She is finally fighting for a strong public option but she is unsure of the outcome at this point.

"Again, it’s good, better, best. We’re having that debate and Members have to reflect and represent their districts and we’re hearing from them, but by no means is the count complete or any decision been made. And I’m sure that Mr. Clyburn, the Whip, who knows these numbers into the — when I said, “around the clock” I was thinking of him for sure."

[sandnsea]

15. Ah, unsure of the outcome,

She is unsure of the outcome, herself. I thought you were saying she is unsure of "herself", her ability to negotiate. Big difference, lol.

I think they're fairly sure they won't get the Medicare +5, I do think they could push very strongly for a national plan without a trigger though.

[Dr Fate]

4. "a" public option, but maybe not "the" public option.

A tenant of "centrism" is that semantics always trumps honesty.

Let's hope we are wrong about them this time.

[redqueen]

5. Hah... I thought that was going to include this exchange:

Pelosi Dismisses Tenther Reporter: ‘Are You Serious?’

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/10/23/pelosi-serious/

[joeycola]

7. Pelosi" "it’s good, better, best. "

Speaker Pelosi. Well, we had a very, I think, congenial — is that the word? — for a Caucus — a very lively and friendly Caucus this morning where we are continuing to count the votes on this. No. No decision of that kind has been made. The robust public option is, in my view, a preferred way to go because is saves the most money — $110 billion. It’s not the only way to go and at the end of the day we will have a public option in our legislation to keep the insurance companies honest and to provide real competition. Again, it’s good, better, best. We’re having that debate and Members have to reflect and represent their districts and we’re hearing from them, but by no means is the count complete or any decision been made. And I’m sure that Mr. Clyburn, the Whip, who knows these numbers into the — when I said, “around the clock” I was thinking of him for sure.

Mr. Clyburn would you like to speak to that point?

Majority Whip Clyburn. I would be glad to, Madam Speaker. Way back when we first started to seriously consider this health care reform legislation — if you recall we went out of here for the August break and we had some very contentious town hall meetings around the country. When we got back here, after Labor Day, I remember the headlines: “Health Care Reform Dead”. All over we got those headlines. About two weeks later, the headlines shifted a little bit. We may get health care reform in some form, but there won’t be a public option. That is — and this is an exact quote: “Off the table” — a public option off the table. Kind of interesting.

Today, we’re now having our efforts evaluated as to whether or not we will get this form of a public option, or that form of a public option. From day one, we have had three or four different kinds of public options under discussion. The so-called “robust plan” that you refer to, defined as Medicare plus five, has been scored. We have scored negotiated rates for a public option. A second form — what I have been calling a “hybrid” public option. We have had four public options. One with a trigger — that would be the third one. And a fourth one…

Speaker Pelosi. Beginning with negotiated rates

[joeycola]

9. Thanks for this. very helpful. REC

[sandnsea]

12. We have a chance to get a solid public option

If we'd stop whining and start fighting.

[joeycola]

14. I have done my calling and writing. I call it a discussion which is

healthy.

[sandnsea]

16. Unsubstantiated rumors and fearmongering

just for the purpose of calling the President a failure - especially when it's from those who are still harboring grudges because Hillary didn't win - is not a discussion.

[joeycola]

20. I think you have the chip on your shoulder.

[sandnsea]

22. I think you weren't here last year

And if that's the case, you don't get it. And if you were, why the new screen name?

[Nikki Stone1]

21. K & R

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