I overheard the damnedest thing at work today

[Jeep789]

A co-worker was complaining about her personal experience getting a test through one of our (local government) insurance plans. The other (and a good friend of mine) replied, "just wait until the reform is passed and see how long it takes.

I confronted the person and told her that she would still have her same plan under any of the reform plans and that the wait would not change. Her response, "we'll see."

I told her that even if what she believed were true (that in countries offering single payer the wait was longer), which it is not, she was extremely selfish for thinking it was okay for others to have no health care so that she wouldn't have to wait longer. I mean, wtf?

[madmax]

1. You don't understand

we're AMERICANS, we shouldn't have to wait for anything, or be inconvenienced by the day to day shit that everyone else has to endure. It's the American way! :sarcasm:

[BR_Parkway]

3. Actually, you left out "successful" in front of Americans - those in the US

who aren't successful aren't deemed 'worthy' either

[madmax]

6. You are so right

I noticed this watching a commercial the other night. I don't remember the company but, it was about investing for retirement.

People chasing their tails, working like hell to be 'successful' so they can do all the fun shit when they retire. Problem is some drop dead of heart attacks before they can enjoy themselves.

In the past I would put off doing things I wanted to do for 'someday' or when I have time'. Well, today is the day and the time is now.

:toast:

[alfredo]

9. Or their boss raids their pension, leaving them nothing.

[madmax]

11. That's a big one!

I forgot that one for an instant. Trying to keep up with all this shit, for me is impossible.

I can't imagine how I'd feel if I lost my savings to Maddoff's buddy who drowned in his pool this month. Now the fleeced investors don't have a shot at recovering any of their money. Something like 7 billion dollars he died with?

[alfredo]

12. Reagan changed the rules about pension. A company can raid pensions for

the flimsiest reasons. All they needed to do is state that they are having financial troubles. There was no verification. Their word was accepted. I don't know if that has changed. I hope it has.

[madmax]

13. Freakin Raygun

I think company sponsored pensions have gone the way of the DoDo bird for the most part.

[alfredo]

14. If they want people to buy their consumer shit, they need some financial stability.

[thenooch]

2. At least...

You have a job. With insurance!

I'm still workin' on that...I mean WTF?

[raccoon]

4. Good for you! Rec'd.

:hug: :loveya:

[Javaman]

5. It's called the "smug know it all" reply.

The right loves to do this. When presented with overwhelming evidence contrary to their bizarre belief system, they will just give you the glazed eye look with a smug smile and state, "we'll see", followed by the smarmy "you're so stupid" look.

This is all they got and they know it's an easy tactic to piss off people.

They also believe that they have the powers of the universe to predict the future.

These people display the most willfully ignorant, based in jealously, positions I have ever witnessed.

They are the one percenters, like chaney. They believe if there is one percent they they are right, that things will go their way, then they will take it, rather than "buckle" to the facts.

crashcart code blue chaney mentality has wrought so much long lasting evil in this nation, that it will be decades before we recover, if ever.

[Echo In Light]

7. Apt description. It's a brainwashed populace.

[la_chupa]

8. sigh

I heard someone the other day claiming that when all the people who are uninsured now get insurance, it will take the rest of "us" longer to get in to see our doctor

yea I guess those people should just die quietly and out of sight

It makes me wish I actually believed in karma because someone like that clearly needs to struggle in life a bit to appreciate what they have.

[Zywiec]

10. What I don't understand about wait times

is if there is a current doctor to patient ratio now, how will increasing the patient side of the equation not increase available time with a doctor?