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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 07:40 AM Original message |
I feel sorry for the family of the shooter |
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Philosoraptor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 07:41 AM Response to Original message |
1. Me too. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 07:44 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I have a 23 year old boy too |
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HeeBGBz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 07:55 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. My son is 23 also |
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ccpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 07:49 AM Response to Original message |
3. thank you for this |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 07:52 AM Response to Original message |
4. Yes... the Korean media is reporting that they have been |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 07:53 AM Response to Original message |
5. From how he's been described, he sounds like he had Asperger's Syndrome |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:07 AM Response to Reply #5 |
10. I strongly suspect he may have been abused as well.. |
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devilgrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:14 AM Response to Reply #10 |
12. The whole thing is horrible isn't it? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:50 AM Response to Reply #10 |
17. From that play he wrote, yes |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:25 PM Response to Reply #17 |
76. My mom was at various times convinced that: |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
112. I've been accused of just about everything, too.,It's really hard to |
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susanna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 09:52 PM Response to Reply #17 |
137. After watching the videotape wherein he |
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NewYorkerfromMass (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 09:57 AM Response to Reply #137 |
156. That's classic paranoid schizophrenia |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 10:47 AM Response to Reply #156 |
167. Tom Delay should be getting there any day now. |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
54. Not fair. nt |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #10 |
67. I wondered that too from his writings. |
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INDIA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 09:48 AM Response to Reply #10 |
154. I believe his sister went to Princeton. |
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kma3346 (423 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 12:43 PM Response to Reply #154 |
189. I just read something interesting about the sister on another site |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:48 AM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Could be |
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MN ChimpH8R (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 07:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
204. I am DX's Asperger and wouldn't be a bit surprised |
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Nevernose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
206. It's the dialogue in the plays |
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Missy M (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
7. I feel sorry for the family too....... |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
8. I feel sorry for them too |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:51 AM Response to Reply #8 |
18. But was she really his girlfriend? |
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johnnie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 09:09 AM Response to Reply #18 |
20. I read it here |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
9. Plus, the media has descended on their home like a pack of wild Dingos.. |
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riverwalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:12 AM Response to Original message |
11. the Amish example |
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Virginia Dare (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:19 AM Response to Reply #11 |
13. Even the Korean media has descended on them... |
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Kingshakabobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 10:22 AM Response to Reply #11 |
29. Boy, THAT story just brought a tear t my eye. I didn't know that about the Amish. n/t |
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Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #11 |
79. I remember that |
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susanna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 09:59 PM Response to Reply #11 |
138. You know, I remember that vividly. |
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Cassandra (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 10:54 AM Response to Reply #11 |
170. I was thinking of the Amish girls last night... |
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potisok (67 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:25 AM Response to Original message |
14. May they find peace |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:52 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Welcome to DU |
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blueworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
15. Amen |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #15 |
56. Welcome to DU! To answer your questions... |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:37 PM Response to Reply #56 |
61. I have insurance that does not cover it, too. |
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kaygore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:51 PM Response to Reply #15 |
97. Same as the Columbine shooters |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 05:15 PM Response to Reply #15 |
122. Welcome to DU, blueworld. |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 09:13 AM Response to Original message |
21. Nice post. I cannot get help for my daughter, it begun around |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 09:52 AM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Why are you told you can't do anything? |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 09:54 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Simply that she is twenty five and an adult, in the eyes of the law |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 10:17 AM Response to Reply #24 |
27. ahhhhh. okay. dang, I'm sorry. :( that's got to be tough on you. nt |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 10:23 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I keep hoping for a miracle you know, ;-) some days are worse than others. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:34 AM Response to Reply #21 |
39. Oh Patsy! |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:20 PM Response to Reply #39 |
91. the only reason that I told some of my story outloud and not in pms |
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BluePatriot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:17 PM Response to Reply #21 |
75. **hugs*** |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:30 PM Response to Reply #21 |
104. Try to get her to see your regular physician for a check up. |
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newsjunki (23 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 09:17 AM Response to Original message |
22. I feel bad for the step-dad |
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seriousstan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 10:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Some fools already take it as a given. |
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Marnieworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
26. me too |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
28. Me three |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:08 AM Response to Original message |
31. Why did they give him a credit card? |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:11 AM Response to Reply #31 |
32. He wasn't alone |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:23 AM Response to Reply #32 |
34. He didn't have a job. His familiy had to either give him the card |
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grace0418 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #34 |
45. College students can often get credit cards without jobs. The credit card companies |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:50 PM Response to Reply #34 |
87. What would you have them do? |
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Geek_Girl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:36 PM Response to Reply #34 |
109. My ex's brother was mentally ill |
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dddem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 05:11 PM Response to Reply #34 |
121. As the daughter of a woman who has a mental illness, may I say with all due respect, |
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REACTIVATED IN CT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:45 AM Response to Reply #32 |
46. You got that right ! |
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Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
81. We used to call it "running the gaunlet" when I was in school |
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Puglover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:21 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. Oh Jesus Christ |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:25 AM Response to Reply #33 |
36. You don't know me yet you still feel as though you can judge me. |
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Puglover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:28 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Who's judging you? |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:34 PM Response to Reply #38 |
59. Blame his parents. n/t |
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Puglover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:09 PM Response to Reply #59 |
82. Oh you are bad. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #36 |
42. You think my parents raised my sister to be mentally ill? |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:56 AM Response to Reply #42 |
49. Did they give her a credit card so she could buy a gun? How many |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
72. They gave her a credit card |
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SmokingJacket (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
55. If only it were that easy. |
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LibraLiz1973 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #36 |
84. Can I blame your parents for your piss poor attitude Bentcorner? |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:23 PM Response to Reply #84 |
99. How am I rude about it? Ask the families of the 31 slain if you should |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 02:07 PM Response to Reply #36 |
195. I have read the entire thread and all your posts. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #31 |
40. Who gave him the credit card? |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:57 AM Response to Reply #40 |
50. He had no job. At the very least his family would have had to co-sign |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. 2 false assumptions |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:41 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Exactly, that poster is going down the "but for" path to a weird degree |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:01 PM Response to Reply #57 |
80. If he had no income, he would have needed someone to co-sign. |
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supernova (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #80 |
106. And you don't seem to understand |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. Maybe that was their way of giving him spending money at college |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
88. His family didn't necessarily have to be co-signers. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #50 |
96. Do you have any idea how the credit companies work, dude? |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:25 PM Response to Reply #96 |
100. Yes, dude I understand how credit cards work. Obviously a lot of you people don't. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:26 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. OMG. That is actually funny. |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #101 |
108. You do know that a pre-approved application doesn't really mean |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:37 PM Response to Reply #108 |
110. Actually, no. |
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minkyboodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 05:37 PM Response to Reply #100 |
125. BS |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 07:00 PM Response to Reply #100 |
127. All righty then. |
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mdmc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #100 |
191. you don't need a job, credit, or a co-signer to get a credit card |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:04 PM Response to Reply #31 |
51. How could they have imagined that he would buy a gun? |
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LSK (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #31 |
58. are you kidding me??? |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #31 |
69. Unfortunately getting a credit card is very easy for a college student. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
35. Me, too, proud. I feel sorry for every family involved. nt |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:37 AM Response to Reply #35 |
43. Same here |
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Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
83. That's what I'm talking about |
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REACTIVATED IN CT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:28 AM Response to Original message |
37. I do too |
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Catherine Vincent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
41. I do too. |
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npincus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
44. so do I. |
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AspenRose (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
47. Me too |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
48. Thank you, Proud2Blib. |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:04 PM Response to Original message |
52. The family might be part of the problem |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:35 PM Response to Reply #52 |
60. Who can we blame for your cold heartedness? n/t |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #60 |
62. How am I cold-hearted? |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #62 |
66. I know a lot about family systems theory. Sometimes they do drop |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #66 |
85. My point, which is being overlooked, stands. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #85 |
184. Could be. Certainly. Might not be, also. NT |
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Irreverend IX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:42 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. Why are you so eager to defend the parents... |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:46 PM Response to Reply #65 |
71. Maybe they did, and maybe they didn't. |
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Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #71 |
86. That's understandable |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #86 |
92. Thanks. That's my point. Folks who think mental illness is |
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Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:11 PM Response to Reply #92 |
98. She had an episode two months ago |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:41 PM Response to Reply #98 |
113. Oh no. I'm so sorry. |
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Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 05:06 PM Response to Reply #113 |
120. I never would have believed half this stuff could have happened |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:52 PM Response to Reply #98 |
117. I'm so sorry, Mabus. The changes can be very subtle and |
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Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 05:27 PM Response to Reply #117 |
123. We see/hear from her every day |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 05:42 PM Response to Reply #123 |
126. Well, it's never boring, is it? |
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Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 06:15 AM Response to Reply #126 |
139. No, it isn't. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #65 |
89. Why are you so eager to think ill of them? |
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Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 06:47 AM Response to Reply #65 |
140. When I was in school |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 10:55 AM Response to Reply #65 |
171. In a previous life, I was a counselor. About 99% of fucked up kids had fucked up families... |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #52 |
63. Spoken like someone |
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cascadiance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #52 |
70. I think it's a bit too early to make judgements, but we should offer sympathy at this point... |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
74. I disagree |
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Kajsa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 09:56 AM Response to Reply #52 |
155. How do you know so much about schizophrenia? |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 06:27 PM Response to Reply #52 |
201. I have to disagree on something |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 07:27 PM Response to Reply #52 |
203. I read one of his so-called plays. Makes me think he was abused |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:18 PM Response to Original message |
53. Me too. They didn't make him do it. The press should leave them alone. nt |
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AZBlue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
73. I see a huge difference between this situation and Columbine. |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
77. I'd like to know hwo molested that kid when he was young. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #77 |
90. I'm guessing we'll never know. |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:28 PM Response to Reply #77 |
103. Not necessarily. Not everyone who has a psychotic episode like |
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Sequoia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:44 PM Response to Reply #103 |
114. Ture, and there's more to it than this. How was he as a child? |
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Midlodemocrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:50 PM Response to Reply #114 |
116. None of us do. We're all just speculating. Human nature. |
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Mabus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:47 PM Response to Original message |
78. I do too |
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PA Democrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
93. Yes. I feel very badly for both the victims' families as well as the shooter's |
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Lisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
94. it can be very very difficult, at the best of times ... |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:29 PM Response to Original message |
95. I do too. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:27 PM Response to Reply #95 |
102. My heart goes out to the shooter |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 05:05 PM Response to Reply #102 |
119. I felt a little encouraged, if that's possible, today listen to WJ callers |
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bling bling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 09:10 PM Response to Reply #102 |
134. My heart goes out to those who DO GET IT. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 08:07 PM Response to Reply #134 |
205. Na Du, Bling |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:31 PM Response to Reply #95 |
107. Those poor people. |
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ronnykmarshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:11 PM Response to Reply #107 |
128. I know, huh sweetie? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:12 PM Response to Reply #128 |
129. Oh, geeze. We hafta do so much better. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:30 PM Response to Original message |
105. Very important post. It's very hard to intervene even when you know |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:38 PM Response to Original message |
111. I now know why some conservatives can get away with making up crap about liberals. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:49 PM Response to Reply #111 |
115. How they could have known he'd do this? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:34 PM Response to Reply #115 |
131. Their life will never be the same again |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 09:41 PM Response to Reply #131 |
135. There's no way we can describe beautiful bright people |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:58 PM Response to Reply #111 |
118. Are you series? |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:25 PM Response to Reply #111 |
130. How does having sympathy for all the families involved explain people who lie? |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 07:09 AM Response to Reply #130 |
142. Do you spend much time feeling sorry for bin Laden's family too? |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 07:11 AM Response to Reply #142 |
143. He was an adult. |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 07:35 AM Response to Reply #143 |
145. bin Laden is an adult too. Do you feel sorry for his family too? |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 12:13 PM Response to Reply #145 |
187. You mean "Did his parents heal him with a magical elixir". |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #142 |
194. *sigh* Comparing this individual to bin Laden? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:37 PM Response to Reply #111 |
132. Wow you really missed the point of my OP |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 07:34 AM Response to Reply #132 |
144. Oh, I got your point. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 09:46 AM Response to Reply #144 |
153. They have been hospitalized for shock |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 10:03 AM Response to Reply #153 |
159. I don't think you can assume anything |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 10:07 AM Response to Reply #159 |
160. Their son is dead; he also murdered 32 people |
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kwassa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 10:32 AM Response to Reply #160 |
163. I'm sure they are .... |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 10:52 AM Response to Reply #153 |
169. And you know this how? How long of a hospital stay does it require for "shock"? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #169 |
176. The news media told me |
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flying_monkeys (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:49 PM Response to Reply #111 |
133. Apologize? This isn't saying sorry cuz Billy stole Susie's markers.... |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 07:06 AM Response to Reply #111 |
141. Their son was a legal adult. You think he acted this surly at home? |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 07:47 AM Response to Reply #141 |
146. I think people should be responsible for the children they raise. |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 08:05 AM Response to Reply #146 |
147. But is there not a point where a child becomes an adult and must take responsibility themselves? |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 08:15 AM Response to Reply #147 |
148. Of course. How do you know that they did everything in their power |
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mainegreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 08:21 AM Response to Reply #148 |
149. How do you know they didn't? You don't, so why are you calling for an apology? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 10:01 AM Response to Reply #148 |
157. How do you know they had money? |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 10:45 AM Response to Reply #157 |
165. Do you bother to even read news reports about any of this? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #165 |
175. Yes I have |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #175 |
178. It's not about you or your family. Stop making it about you. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 12:02 PM Response to Reply #178 |
182. I have never said it was about me |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #182 |
190. You have mentioned your own specific personal situation quite a bit. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #190 |
192. And you apear to know zilch about mental illness |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #192 |
196. What I do know was that he wasn't just a "shooter" like you refer to him as. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 02:29 PM Response to Reply #196 |
197. He was a very sick young man |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 08:14 AM Response to Reply #197 |
207. So you still can't refer to him as a murderer? If you want to feel sorry |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 10:00 AM Response to Reply #207 |
208. I am capable of feeling sorry for all of them |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 10:26 AM Response to Reply #208 |
209. Well, his family in Korea says that he was diagnosed autistic shortly after |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 10:49 AM Response to Reply #209 |
210. And I read that his mother called him autistic but it was never formally |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 11:07 AM Response to Reply #210 |
211. Coming after you? Once again, it's not about you. It's about the people |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Apr-20-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #211 |
212. Okay sorry you just don't get it |
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flying_monkeys (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 11:46 AM Response to Reply #165 |
179. Ah, see, I don't have a "worthy of pity" meter running. |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 11:52 AM Response to Reply #179 |
181. Well, you start to lose all credibility when you feel sorrow for people that don't deserve it. |
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flying_monkeys (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 12:09 PM Response to Reply #181 |
185. Nothing I have seen says they don't. But their child *is* dead. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 12:30 PM Response to Reply #185 |
188. Deleted message |
flying_monkeys (519 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 02:45 PM Response to Reply #188 |
198. You are glad someone's child is dead. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #188 |
199. Your only wish is that he killed himself earlier? I'd think a wish that he'd gotten |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 12:11 PM Response to Reply #181 |
186. Your default is that they deserve no sympathy until they prove they deserve it. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 10:18 AM Response to Reply #146 |
162. Oh good grief; how would you feel if this was your kid? |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 10:46 AM Response to Reply #162 |
166. 'Personal responsibility' doesn't belong to the rightwing. It belongs to everyone. |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 11:35 AM Response to Reply #166 |
173. Indeed. And I am an advocate of it. But it has nothing to do with having sympathy - |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 11:48 AM Response to Reply #173 |
180. Well, they were paying for him to go to VT. Don't make it like he was |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 12:08 PM Response to Reply #180 |
183. I don't see the relevance. Anyone who has ever been a teenager knows |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 11:39 AM Response to Reply #166 |
177. Rush says that, I know |
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Marrah_G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 06:39 PM Response to Reply #146 |
202. you do realize parents have zero impact when the child reaches 18 right? |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 09:04 AM Response to Reply #111 |
150. "the quality of mercy is not strained...." |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 10:08 AM Response to Reply #111 |
161. Your reasoning is as poor as any NeoCon - no wonder you understand. |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 10:40 AM Response to Reply #111 |
164. you're the one making up crap about Liberals right here |
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Bentcorner (385 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 10:50 AM Response to Reply #164 |
168. Really? I learn about something before I make a snap judgment. In this |
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nini (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 11:19 AM Response to Reply #168 |
172. that's good for you... just don't judge anyone else who does |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 11:36 AM Response to Reply #168 |
174. And yet you've already decided they aren't worth it. |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
124. My 16 year old son asked me if it was necessary to release his name because he felt sorry |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 09:51 PM Response to Reply #124 |
136. . . . |
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Bluerthanblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 09:45 AM Response to Reply #124 |
152. attitudes like your sons..... |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 05:40 PM Response to Reply #152 |
200. Thank you blu, he really is a sweet kid. |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 10:02 AM Response to Reply #124 |
158. Sounds like a rather intuitive 16 year old kid |
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cooolandrew (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 09:20 AM Response to Original message |
151. I know where your coming from, he comes across very tormented... |
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nadinbrzezinski (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
193. So do I |
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