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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:24 PM
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CREW LAWSUIT RESULTS IN RELEASE OF NOTES OF CHENEY'S FBI INTERVIEW IN WILSON LEAK CASE
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 04:25 PM by DearAbby
30 Oct 2009 // Washington, D.C. - Today, after successfully winning a lawsuit against the Department of Justice, under court order, CREW received documents related to former Vice President Dick Cheney’s interview with the FBI in the investigation into the leak of Valerie Plame Wilson’s covert CIA identity. The transcript reveals that Mr. Cheney – generally credited with razor sharp intellect and recall – demonstrated an astonishing inability to recollect even simple facts much less the numerous conversations others have testified to regarding his involvement in the administration’s efforts to discredit former Ambassador Joe Wilson. Mr. Cheney’s memory frequently failed to improve, even when confronted with his own hand-written notes. The transcript does indicate however, that Mr. Cheney held Mr. Wilson in low regard and called the CIA’s decision to send Mr. Wilson to Niger “amateur-hour.”

Melanie Sloan, executive director of CREW said, “For years the American people have wondered what role Vice President Cheney played in outing former CIA officer Valerie Plame Wilson. While we may never know the whole story, with the release of these documents we are one step closer.” Sloan continued, “In his closing statement at Scooter Libby’s trial, Special Counsel Fitzgerald said a cloud remained over the vice-president. Mr. Cheney’s near total amnesia regarding his role in this monumental Washington scandal – resulting in the conviction of his top aide – shows why.”

Consistent with President Obama’s promise of transparency, the administration did not appeal the court’s order.













http://www.citizensforethics.org/node/43169



















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Whisp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:26 PM
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1. holy crap is this as big as I think it could be....
patiently waiting for reports/reactions. My browser locks up on a lot of sites so I tread very close to home.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:31 PM
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6. I wish, but I think it will go right over the majority of people's heads.
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 04:32 PM by BeHereNow
I doubt the average American even knows about the Plame case,
or cares.
DU is a minority of people paying attention.
WE know the son-of-bitch (and others of his ilk) should be in prison,
but then that would mean we have an effective
judicial system. We don't.
As Bugliosi put it, there appears to be two sets of law in this country.
Cheney will ride off into the corporate sunset, mark my words.

BHN
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:43 PM
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9. Speaking of Bugliosi, I got to talk with him about the Plame case.
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 04:45 PM by robertpaulsen
I wrote about it on my blog:



Monday, January 12, 2009

An afternoon with Vincent "Keep Fighting" Bugliosi.

This past Saturday, January 10, I went to see Vincent Bugliosi at the North Hollywood Library. Arriving 10 minutes before the event, it was great to see him already there, signing autographs and chatting with people in line. His scheduled talk at 2pm would deal with the subject of his latest book, The Prosecution of George W. Bush For Murder, but he had no problem answering the questions of conspiracy theorists doubting his conclusions that Oswald acted alone. While I may disagree with Bugliosi on this subject, I disagree with a much a higher degree of respect than I would for Gerald Posner or any other kneejerk Warren apologist who deals with conspiracy theories dismissively as opposed to sourced point by point research as others have told me Bugliosi did in Reclaiming History.

There were probably around 100 people gathered for his speech. He spent about 45 minutes speaking about how to prosecute George W. Bush for murder, then spent about an hour and 15 minutes taking questions from the audience. It was definitely a lively, engaged crowd in agreement with his desire to put the Little Shrub behind bars. Not that he has any illusions that the road ahead will be easy. He pointed frequently during his talk to a newspaper clipping of the photo-op with President-Elect Obama with all the living ex-Presidents and Dubya. While Bugliosi has high hopes for Obama and admitted voting for him in November, he doesn't care for his talk of unity in the wake of eight years of criminal behavior if that unity means justice is denied. All of his efforts right now are focused on getting someone in power to file murder charges against Bush, Cheney and Rice. That someone would be incoming Attorney General Eric Holder, any of the 50 State Attorney Generals or any State District Attorney. He doesn't discount the possibility that in the course of trial deliberations, additional murder charges could end up being filed against Rumsfeld, Tenet or others that conspired to lie us into a war that led to the deaths of more than 4,000 Americans. But in the initial stages Bugliosi believes that in regard to Bush, Cheney and Rice there is more than enough evidence to charge them with murder and secure an indictment on the charge. What he is less certain of is whether the case would be allowed to go to trial after indictment. His assumption is that upon indictment, the case would immediately be challenged for it's precedent-setting, and the decision of whether to proceed to trial would be decided by the Supreme Court. Bugliosi stated that there are two Supreme Court justices, Scalia and Thomas, who are "a disgrace to their profession". They have already made clear how they would rule on such a case, he's not so sure how open the remaining seven would be.

In the course of detailing how Bush could be prosecuted for murder, Bugliosi cited a lot of evidence that I'm sure most of us are already familiar with regarding why he should be charged with murder. But there was one piece of evidence that he cited as smoking gun proof that the decision to go to war was not a mistake rooted in faulty intelligence, it was a deliberate lie by Bush to promote a war of aggression. That piece of evidence has been referred to as the White Paper. On October 1, 2002, Bush received a classified NIE report from the CIA which confirmed that Saddam Hussein was not an imminent threat to the United States. Yet on the evening of October 7, even after being briefed by CIA director George Tenet that morning, Bush lied by stating the exact opposite to the American people. Bush later lied to Congress by preparing a declassified version of the NIE, which has become known as the White Paper. The White Paper edited words out of the original NIE that changed the meaning completely making what had not appeared to be an imminent threat seem imminent. There were also instances where words were added to the White Paper that weren't in the original NIE, producing the same adverse effect.

When it came time to ask questions, there was one question in particular that, after extremely extensive research five years ago on the Plame Threads, both H2O Man http://h2oman.blogspot.com/ and I were curious to get Bugliosi's perspective on. I asked him what he thought of Patrick Fitzgerald's investigation of the outing of CIA agent Valerie Plame and if he felt Fitzgerald could have gone farther in prosecuting Cheney. Bugliosi said that he was "very disappointed" in the outcome of that investigation. He definitely felt that Fitzgerald could have and should have gone higher up the food chain.

After concluding the Q&A session, Bugliosi received applause from everyone present, then signed autographs for everyone who brought one of his books. (Or bought, the library was selling a number of his books there) As he was signing my copy of The Prosecution of George W. Bush For Murder, I told him about my American Judas blog and that I posted at Democratic Underground as robertpausen and asked what he thought the number one thing we could do to try to ensure that Bush, Cheney and Rice would be prosecuted for murder. "Keep fighting", he said emphatically. Write to your State Attorney General, write to a US District Attorney, write to Eric Holder. Stand up to the bullies. Bugliosi reiterated an earlier point he made in response to all the questions about what really stands in the way of justice. In spite of the fact that he is an extremely respected former prosecutor with a number of books that reached #1 on the NY Times Best Seller List, the reaction of the mainstream media in regard to The Prosecution of George W. Bush For Murder has been a virtual blackout. Whereas in the past, he would have no problem upon release of a book getting instant appearances on network morning talk shows and evening cable shows to promote the sale of a new book, his agent was turned down by virtually everyone. Did you see him promote The Prosecution of George W. Bush For Murder on The Daily Show? Rachel Maddow? Even Countdown with Keith Olbermann did not invite Bugliosi on to promote this important book. Some alternative radio channels, I believe he mentioned Democracy Now, did have him on their show. But MSM? Silence.

Why was everyone so afraid? What is the source of this fear? Bugliosi lays the blame squarely on the right wing. They have taken over the Republican Party. They used to be on the fringe, he mentioned that Eisenhower disdained them (referring to McCarthy no doubt) but now they are in charge of the GOP. The problem is that Bugliosi feels the Democratic Party still hasn't found the appropriate response to such destructive behavior to put them back on the fringe for good. He brought up the question of patriotism as an example. Whenever a right winger in some way questions the patriotism of a Democrat, the typical response is, "No, I'm not. I'm a patriot because..." Bugliosi believes the more appropriate response is, "No, you are not. You're not a patriot because..." Detail exactly how their idiocy destroys the country they claim to love. Whether they have the intelligence to truly comprehend is not the point, others who do have the intelligence will comprehend and the right wing will be on the fringe again.

Before leaving the library, I shook Bugliosi's hand and told him to keep fighting the good fight. He looked me square in the eye and said, "You keep fighting too!" I walked outside beaming with pride. When will I start writing letters demanding George W. Bush be charged with murder? As soon as that helicopter carries him away from the White House eight days from now.
Posted by Robert Paulsen at 4:26 PM

http://americanjudas.blogspot.com/2009/01/afternoon-with-vincent-keep-fighting.html
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:46 PM
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10. thanks for the read....n/t
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:52 PM
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14. I met him in Venice Beach- same tour, with DUer RobinLynne
Wonderful guy and his wife is a gracious and lovely person too.

The black out of his book is a stain on the history of our so-called"media,"
not to mention a water mark on how far down we have slipped as
an informed citizenry, thanks to the PTB.

Did he share with you that he does not use a cell phone or a computer?
Thus the arm loads of yellow legal notes.
Love it.

I can't wait to see his documentary- that will probably be blacked out too.
Unfortunately, the people who REALLY NEED to see it, will most likely
never know that it exists.

BHN
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xchrom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:27 PM
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2. ...
:woohoo:
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napi21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:29 PM
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3. Must have taken lessons from Gonzo! n/t
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Cheney Killed Bambi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:29 PM
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4. K&R!
Can't wait to read Marcy Wheeler's analysis.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 07:31 PM
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25. Found this at FDL
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 07:39 PM by DearAbby
One sentence jumped out at me at the end

If I were Scooter Libby and saw how Dick sold him out, I’d start talking right now.


http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2009/10/30/cheney-interview-materials/
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Hekate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:30 PM
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5. KnR.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:34 PM
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7. My Damned computer crashes when I try
to open adobe...Can anyone give some juicy details? THIS IS HUGE
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:40 PM
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8. gimme gimme gimme...
DavidShuster is tweeting on this...follows:

CIA leak/Dick Cheney news. Cheney's interview notes with prosecutors have just been released:


next

DavidShuster

My first take on the news... Cheney denies ever talking with Libby about Joe Wilson. Libby testified to the GJ they did talk about Wilson.

Next:

DavidShuster

Libby didn't get indicted on that part of his testimony... which would suggest prosecutors believed Libby...and thought Cheney was lying.


next:

DavidShuster

After reading through the Cheney interview, I'm flabbergasted that Patrick Fitzgerald didn't indict him. Cheneys statements are shocking.

ME: I CAN'T F'ing OPEN MY ADOBE...damn machine crashes
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:48 PM
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12. Got it open!
:bounce:
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:58 PM
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16. "I'm flabbergasted that Patrick Fitzgerald didn't indict him."
Fitz knew it would be useless-
Cheney and his friends are apparently "above the law."
That's what makes the "outlaws."

They certainly have no allegiance to the US.
That is clear to anyone even remotely paying attention.
The crimes committed by these people are too many to number
and will never be prosecuted.
The PTB will not allow it, that is what Fitz knew, despite
the evidence of treason.

BHN
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 05:01 PM
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17. Rogue Government
or the sinister sounding Shadow Government. And yes, it appears some are above the law.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 05:13 PM
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19. Partial gallery of rogue shadow "officials."
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:47 PM
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11. Dick seems to forget a LOT
When it's not putting money in his pocket.
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:48 PM
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13. amazing ain't it?
selective alzheimer's
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 04:58 PM
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15. Somebody needs to do a "I do not recall" count. nt
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 05:40 PM
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23. The Vice President said
he does not recall specifically...how many paragraphs begins with these words, in 28 pages of notes? I think he has Gonzo beat.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 05:21 PM
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20. No kidding. For a guy who opines about how Tenet was during
a phone conversation but can't ever seem to to remember who he talks to.

And for the continual CIA discredit putdown ala "amatuer hour". Makes me wonder how he gets away with trash talking these guys and not get some enemies wanting to even the score.
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 05:25 PM
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21. I wonder if a little enhanced interrogation might improve his memory?
It's certainly worked for others, and we've learned sooooo much from the techniques authorized by the administration Mr. Cheney worked in. How about it, Dick? A little sleep deprivation? Some stress positions? One or two waterboarding sessions?
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 05:35 PM
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22. I sure dickey is all about a little "fraternity type hazing".
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 05:11 PM
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18. kick
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DearAbby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-30-09 05:43 PM
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24. On MSNBC now...
Edited on Fri Oct-30-09 05:44 PM by DearAbby
WASHINGTON - Vice President Dick Cheney told the FBI he had no idea who leaked to the news media that Valerie Plame, wife of a Bush administration critic, worked for the CIA.

An FBI summary of Cheney's interview from 2004 reflects that the vice president had deep concern about Plame's husband, Joseph Wilson, a former U.S. ambassador in Africa who said the administration had twisted prewar intelligence on Iraq.

Cheney's chief of staff, I. Lewis "Scooter" Libby, was convicted of perjury, obstruction and lying to the FBI in the probe of who leaked Plame's identity to the news media. President George W. Bush commuted Libby's 30-month prison sentence but rejected Cheney's vehement appeals to pardon Libby.

More:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33556198/ns/politics-more_politics/?ocid=twitter
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