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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:23 PM Original message |
Gun Control: another reason why legal abortion got kicked in the nuts... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
1. Well that's a stretch |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. Gore is not President, therefore he DID NOT appoint Alito et al. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:32 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Your clauses need some alignment and tuning up to present a case...eom |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
33. Nope |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:53 PM Response to Reply #33 |
51. At least you put up a bit of an arguement, but that is hardly convincing or conclusive |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:19 PM Response to Reply #51 |
84. Oh give it a rest. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:57 PM Response to Reply #84 |
88. Annie get your anecdotes...eom |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 05:46 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. I never try to convince the closed minded. |
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William769 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:28 PM Response to Original message |
2. I'd say you are correct. |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Herding cats. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:31 PM Response to Original message |
5. I know a fair number of gun owners. |
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Craftsman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:28 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. I live in TX and at deer (beer) camp in 2004 |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #17 |
34. Well, I live in the urban South. |
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Lone_Star_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 07:53 AM Response to Reply #34 |
98. I could introduce you to an electrician there in Houston |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 09:49 AM Response to Reply #98 |
103. Yes, there are idiots everywhere. |
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Craftsman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 11:16 AM Response to Reply #103 |
105. Because their vote counts the same as yours. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
20. HR 1022 (currently in committee) is a Democratic sponsored bill that will take away my guns |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:12 PM Response to Reply #20 |
30. OK. Summarize for me exactly which guns you will lose. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. No they will take them away from citizen in general by making new one unavaible. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
36. So--you admit that they WON'T "take away my guns" |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:30 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Keep the violin. |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:54 PM Response to Reply #40 |
52. Oh, I'm keeping the violin. After all, it's the smallest one in the world. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:59 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Gun grabbng is an ambiguous term, but thats how some gun owners see AWB. |
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TnDem (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:06 PM Response to Reply #52 |
79. OK...After you lose the entire south and midwest... |
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Moses2SandyKoufax (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 08:10 PM Response to Reply #79 |
111. The entire midwest? |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #20 |
45. Bullshit. |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
54. Taking away someone's ability to purchase a gun in the future |
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sendero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:28 PM Response to Reply #54 |
87. These dumb fuckers.. |
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TnDem (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:57 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Bullshit is right... |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:20 PM Response to Reply #5 |
35. All the gun owners here.... |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:24 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. Well, it's hard to fight stupidity. |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:46 PM Response to Reply #37 |
73. It's not stupid or ignorant |
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Bridget Burke (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 07:35 AM Response to Reply #73 |
96. Stupid & Ignorant. |
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TnDem (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:41 PM Response to Reply #35 |
44. THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, THANK YOU, ... |
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Moses2SandyKoufax (621 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 08:01 PM Response to Reply #44 |
110. Sorry, late to the party but Sacramento? |
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Sapere aude (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
7. No matter what the Dems say, wing nuts still believe we want to take their guns away. |
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unpossibles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:44 PM Response to Reply #7 |
10. true |
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nebenaube (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:52 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. they have a hard time with this one too... |
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wizstars (792 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 05:26 PM Response to Reply #13 |
106. Binary--it's as easy as 1-10-11........ |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:45 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. Well, the wing nuts should have their guns taken away. |
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rhiannon55 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. That's what my wingnut brother thinks |
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TnDem (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:47 PM Response to Reply #16 |
48. Read the comments on this thread ALONE.... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
57. Pugs never sit around and even mention what guns should be banned and which ones should be register |
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TnDem (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:12 PM Response to Reply #57 |
63. No, because they pugs are somewhat satisfied with the status quo... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:34 PM Response to Reply #63 |
69. Bet their talking about weapons restriction after the bloodbath at Virginia Tech |
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TnDem (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:59 PM Response to Reply #69 |
77. Wanna bet? |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 05:16 AM Response to Reply #77 |
89. So you want firearms to be available to anybody, anytime |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 05:50 AM Response to Reply #89 |
91. This is not the GOD DAMNED ISSUE and you know it. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 06:01 AM Response to Reply #91 |
93. One of those "gangster gun marts" was in the township next to me |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 06:07 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. And I lived in Houston for 10 years: GUN SHOW CAPTIAL OF THE WORLD. |
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TnDem (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 08:26 AM Response to Reply #89 |
100. Again, you show your ignorance.... |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:36 PM Response to Reply #7 |
19. That's because gun nuts are authoritarians, and a higher authority, |
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TnDem (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:49 PM Response to Reply #19 |
49. If you MENTION confiscating ONE GUN.... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:02 PM Response to Reply #49 |
58. ..For some reason people just cannot grasp the mentality of the rural voter.. |
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TnDem (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:13 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. I live here.... |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:37 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. Oh, yeah, well I live *here* |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:04 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. Well, we could all register as repuglicans, and REALLY be a |
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aikoaiko (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
22. The perception might change if we stopped proposing gun bans. |
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Craftsman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:40 PM Response to Reply #7 |
24. I have friends that have assault rifles, they do not view banning them |
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Heywood J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:36 PM Response to Reply #24 |
70. I'd be curious to know |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:56 PM Response to Reply #70 |
76. Most are probably for target shooting |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:17 PM Response to Reply #70 |
80. You might be interested to know... |
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Craftsman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 11:14 AM Response to Reply #70 |
104. They like to shoot them |
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Contradistinction (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:50 PM Response to Reply #7 |
28. You just contradicted yourself. |
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TnDem (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:52 PM Original message |
The Democratic platform should say... |
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qdemn7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
29. You DO Want to Take Our Guns Away, and Yes It IS your Fault |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:39 PM Response to Reply #7 |
43. You don't get it. |
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TnDem (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
47. Solution.... |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:38 PM Response to Original message |
8. Apples: Another reason why oranges got kicked in the nuts... |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:47 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. Because the vegetables went bananas over the apples? |
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BurtWorm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:15 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. This subthread is making me hungry... |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
9. Yeah, it's like talking to a church hierarchy: |
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TnDem (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:03 PM Response to Reply #9 |
59. The get ready to... |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
15. The majority of Americans want strict gun controls. |
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Craftsman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. But they are not voting for it, But the progunners are voting against it |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:37 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. Perhaps they would if the party took a real stance on it instead of pandering to the NRA. |
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Craftsman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. That would only make it worse. The passion on this issue is on the progun side |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:46 PM Response to Reply #18 |
26. That's what they say. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:42 PM Response to Reply #26 |
46. Don't forget flag-burning and Xmas displays and Confederate flag displays. |
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TnDem (455 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:09 PM Response to Reply #26 |
62. Fuck the NRA...They are irrelevant... |
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beevul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:21 PM Response to Reply #62 |
81. The m1 garand |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:22 PM Response to Reply #81 |
85. Correct. Also the M1 carbine. |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 06:15 AM Response to Reply #81 |
95. M1 Carbine would be banned, I didn't see M1 Garand |
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Thothmes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 08:16 AM Response to Reply #95 |
99. M14 |
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JustABozoOnThisBus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 08:37 AM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Right. I meant the newer M14 clones |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:54 PM Response to Reply #62 |
82. No, I cannot "grasp that." I think it's fucking sick. |
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piedmont (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:16 PM Response to Reply #15 |
31. How many of them even know what the current laws are? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:17 PM Response to Reply #15 |
65. It would be difficult to construct poll questions that are more vague than those |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:28 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. Not according to the OP who opines that pro-gunners are controlling the elections. |
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zanne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:39 PM Response to Original message |
23. I never heard that until one of you guys said it here on DU. |
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RaleighNCDUer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
27. Abortion: the reason why responsible gun laws got kicked in the nuts. |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:36 PM Response to Reply #27 |
41. I think quite a few women on the DU would disagree with you. |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:55 PM Response to Reply #27 |
53. :snort: |
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jpgray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:25 PM Response to Original message |
38. Doing what's right trumps doing what's popular. Should we abandon gay rights? |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:28 PM Response to Original message |
39. Like I said before: HERDING CATS. |
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Azathoth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
42. I think a lot of Democrats have realized that the gun control issue is a non-starter |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 02:52 PM Response to Original message |
50. Just One More Issue To Compromise Away. |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:08 PM Response to Original message |
61. One problem there: GORE WON |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:19 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. It wasn't a big enough margin, or in the right places |
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Sgent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:23 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. That's funny |
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Kolesar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:38 PM Response to Reply #67 |
72. Pure Projection League...eom |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #61 |
86. If he'd won JUST ONE of those pissant western states, |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 05:28 PM Response to Reply #61 |
107. If you don't have the White House, it doesn't fucking matter. n/t |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:48 PM Response to Original message |
74. gore WON the election. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 03:50 PM Response to Original message |
75. Who wants the support of the denizens of "Li'l Jesustan"? Let them hunt varmints. |
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Rabrrrrrr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
78. You're absolutely correct. It's a completely fucking nonsense issue to begin with, |
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Morgana LaFey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Apr-18-07 05:58 PM Response to Original message |
83. You have to use an analogy with MALE ANATOMY for this? |
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Tyler Durden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 05:52 AM Response to Reply #83 |
92. Works for me. |
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Kelly Rupert (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 05:30 PM Response to Reply #83 |
108. Stick me on, too, while you're at it. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 05:35 PM Response to Reply #83 |
109. Would "kicked in the ovaries" have worked better for you? |
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SarahB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 07:43 AM Response to Original message |
97. I happen to agree with you. |
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skipos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Apr-19-07 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
102. Guns and taxes cost us the most votes, imo |
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