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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:08 PM Original message |
Women who stole from girl, 9, hold public signs of shame |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
1. Time to bring back an old tradition? |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:35 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. I just posted about your pic ( #14). |
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Divine Discontent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:10 PM Response to Original message |
2. how sad. it is just punishment. I think it'll encourage them in the future. how embarrassing. |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. They're not being physically tortured. Just publicly humiliated. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. The embarrassment is sort of the intent, and is deserved. (nt) |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:15 PM Response to Original message |
5. wasn't there once upon a time an eighth amendment to our constitution...? |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:23 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. There is nothing cruel or unusual in trying to shame someone into |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. as long as the punishment is the same for everyone convicted of the same offense... |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 07:33 PM Response to Reply #11 |
24. They AGREED to the punishment |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 07:35 PM Response to Reply #24 |
26. who said anything about it being cruel? |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 08:00 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. You mentioned the 8th Amendment. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. What, precisely, is cruel about this? (nt) |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #9 |
13. unless it's the usual punishment for people convicted of the offense... |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:57 PM Response to Reply #13 |
20. By that logic changing any sentence that was on the books in the 1770s is unconstitutional. (nt) |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 07:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
23. really? how so...? i don't see how that would be a logical conclusion at all. |
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Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #5 |
16. Is it more cruel than jail? |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 07:34 PM Response to Reply #16 |
25. it definitely can be, depending on how the person handles humiliation. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. Shame and humilliation is a powerful behavior modifier. |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:09 PM Response to Reply #25 |
34. Yeah but the experience of jail can ruin a person. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #5 |
30. How is this any more cruel than jail time? |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:16 PM Response to Original message |
6. I think it's a great punishment. |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:22 PM Response to Original message |
7. I think public humililation is the best punishment. That is definitely what |
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DainBramaged (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
10. Those pictures are BEGGING to be photo shopped........ |
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Canuckistanian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:31 PM Response to Original message |
12. I don't know how I feel about this |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. agree.. the woman and her daughter were caught and obviously prosecuted |
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Withywindle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:47 PM Response to Reply #12 |
40. Definitely it should only be used for the legitimately convicted of a legitimate crime |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
14. The Stockades were once used for this type of shame. |
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endeavourniche (41 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:39 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. Here in Florida |
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alittlelark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. In the Albuquerque Journal they publish DUI's every month. |
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Raine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 07:00 PM Response to Original message |
21. Good |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 07:02 PM Response to Original message |
22. Public Humiliation might do the trick for non-violent offenders. |
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paulsby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 08:45 PM Response to Original message |
28. this is common in hawaii where i used to work |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. DUI Offenders? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 09:31 PM Response to Original message |
29. That is brilliant. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
33. I do not believe in this kind of humiliation |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Stealing from a child is uncivilized. |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:16 PM Response to Reply #35 |
37. humiliation does not change behavior |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:22 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. How do you know it doesn't? nt |
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Skittles (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:09 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. try it on your kids |
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FBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Of course it does. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 04:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
45. of course it changes behavior. That's why humans are wired to feel shame. |
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Shell Beau (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:14 PM Response to Reply #33 |
36. Any more civilized than stealing (which they chose to do)? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-03-09 11:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Yup locking up first time non violent offenders in an overcrowded prison system |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 12:12 AM Response to Reply #39 |
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gatorboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-04-09 03:07 PM Response to Original message |
44. I wish the first picture was larger. |
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