Nikki Stone1
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:19 PM
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All Virginia and New York-23 prove is that the looney right is reorganized and re-energized |
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We need to take them seriously and fight them like mad. The moderate GOP may be dead, but the looney right is alive and well.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:19 PM
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1. Doesn't prove jack in VA. |
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Except that Deeds sucks ass.
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Nikki Stone1
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:23 PM
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6. The GOP picked a hard right candidate, not a more moderate type |
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The hard right wing is using tonight's election to prove that the GOP should run all hard right people in 2010.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:26 PM
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11. McDonnell ran his campaign as a total moderate. |
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Avoiding extreme right language and groups.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:27 PM
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12. His thesis was known to everyone as was his college |
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I think people knew who they were voting for.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:29 PM
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14. That thesis deal fell flat. |
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Deeds focused on it way too much. McDonnell ran away from it. Thats not rightwing. If it was the extreme right, why did he run away from it?
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:38 PM
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21. i think the adverts that mcdonnel ran with the women he worked with and his daughter |
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totally destroyed that avenue of attack, it seemed a dumb attack in the first place from deeds.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:44 PM
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Tue Nov-03-09 11:06 PM
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30. So the va in vadawg stands for "Virginia"? What part are you from? |
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And what was the general feeling in your neck of the woods?
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Tue Nov-03-09 11:39 PM
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31. i live in the mountains, i said a while ago that deeds would lose bigtime |
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mainly because my neighbours who supported obama in the general had mcdonnell signs on their yards, deeds just ran a really bad campaign.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:35 PM
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17. And that VA is no blue state, despite the vote for Obama. nt |
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:20 PM
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2. Both very conservative districts.... |
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which were expected to go Repub anyway...
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:22 PM
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3. Hoffman is not repub... |
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he's Frankenstein's monster
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Nikki Stone1
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:22 PM
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4. They didn't go Republican, they went hard right. (The Republican in NY was forced out of the race) |
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The biggest mistake would be to see this as the same old game with the same old rules.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:30 PM
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15. The New York district is actually *right of the Republicans*, isn't it? (nt) |
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:23 PM
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5. From what I hear about New York 23, it's a completely looney right district.... |
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.... A depressed "clinging to God and guns" area where people vote against their best interests.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:24 PM
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so it's no surprise that a dem lost.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:25 PM
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10. Trumad, do you know a thing about that district? |
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:40 PM
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23. My bad--jumped the gun on saying the dem lost... |
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but---a Dem hasn't won in that district for over a Century...I only know what I read.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:24 PM
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7. If it were, how did a moderate repub get on the ticket to begin with? |
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:25 PM
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The story here is the GOP lost in a district they owned for over 100 years to a guy with no viable national appeal. This doesn't appear to be a national strategy in districts that are really in play.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:25 PM
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9. It's also the home of Fort Drum, still a major military installation. |
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Like so many "conservatives", they live off of the government they despise.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:35 PM
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16. Odd that they would vote for a Pagan. nt |
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:27 PM
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13. I have been saying this for over a few years but |
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don't expect this to register... it simply won't until it is too damn late
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:37 PM
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is that Democrats stayed home. I know of two or three. If you vote for a a "blue dog" he/she is really a "DINO" (Democrats in Name Only).
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:39 PM
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22. What to register - that Republicans won the races they were expected to win? |
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Edited on Tue Nov-03-09 09:45 PM by HughMoran
Even after Obama was elected last fall, these races were expected to go Republican.
Completely meaningless...
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:36 PM
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18. Doesn't even show that - Republicans were nearly 100% expected to win these races |
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The only possible surprise tonight is NJ.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:38 PM
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20. What? Hasn't that NY district been Republican for 100 YEARS? |
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How does it mean anything if a Republican wins it.
Please explain.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:40 PM
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24. & Virginia almost always elects opposite party to new President |
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This thread is meaningless.
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Tue Nov-03-09 11:04 PM
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29. Hugh Moran, you are aptly named. |
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Tue Nov-03-09 11:02 PM
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28. It is moderate Republican according to a DUer who lives there. It's never been hard right |
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Remember: the Republican didn't win--she was forced out of the race. It was the new "Conservative" party that won. Don't mistake one for the other. This was a coup of the GOP by the looney right. We need to be really careful because these loonies have been regrouping since the election.
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Tue Nov-03-09 09:53 PM
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26. Exactly right. We ignore them or do not take them seriously at our own peril. |
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For those who have been dancing on the grave of the GOP, you may be in for a rude awakening. If the looney right does get organized and energized they will be successful. It seems like they did a good job last summer at the town hall meetings because where were all the Democrats and Liberals who should have been there to support healthcare reform and especially the have the backs of the Democratic representatives who faced those angry crowds.
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Tue Nov-03-09 11:00 PM
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27. +1000000---I can't recommend your post enough |
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Tales of the far right's demise are premature at best.
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