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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:39 AM Original message |
The Democrats are committing political suicide |
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phantom power (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
1. I don't know if it's too late, but I don't think they are going to change course. |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #1 |
47. exactly. |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
94. Boy, that says it all. |
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jaksavage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
2. I hope so |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:42 AM Response to Original message |
3. Corporate money has weakend the party's drive for progressivism. |
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FredStembottom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:46 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. It's corruption. |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:33 PM Response to Reply #7 |
46. Yes. |
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Peregrine Took (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:47 AM Response to Reply #3 |
10. Excellent point. Who said He would "vomit the lukewarm" or words to |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
4. Agreed. Honestly, I think Congressional Dems. prefer to be in the minority. n/t |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 07:52 PM Response to Reply #4 |
90. Yes, we must fulfill your stupid prophesy |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
5. Most of the people in Washington are corrupt |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #5 |
20. RFK Jr. said 75% of Dems in Congress are corrupt, and 100% of Repubs. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:45 AM Response to Original message |
6. You do realize that only a small percentage call themselves 'progressives' ? It's somewhere around |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
8. So you want the Dems to take the same path as the GOP, which we laugh about every day? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:50 AM Response to Reply #8 |
15. Some apparently do, yes. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #8 |
17. On health care, the public favored a robust Public Option. The House passed nothing of that sort. |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. They passed *something* of the sort |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #21 |
33. I specifically used "robust" in reference to the polls that used "robust" |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #21 |
51. The man who created the public option specifically said it has to be large and |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:37 PM Response to Reply #8 |
50. Isn't that characterization a little dishonest? |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:41 PM Response to Reply #8 |
54. If they aren't willing to stand up for Democratic principles, what's the point of electing them? |
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Vincardog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #54 |
78. +1 If they aren't willing to stand up for Democratic principles, what's the point of electing them? |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
9. If you allow the GOP to take charge its you who are committing suicide |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:47 AM Response to Original message |
11. I agree. Im going to sit back and watch it happen. |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
12. I just posted the same general thought in a different thread. |
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Swede (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
13. The Republicans are committing political suicide |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:51 AM Response to Reply #13 |
16. Some here seem to want to level out the playing field... |
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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #13 |
22. But older white folks will keep voting AT EVERY ELECTION |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
64. +1 |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
14. We can always fight to the end. Loses will be interpreted by |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
18. Yes, we need a leftwing Teabag movement to Scozzafava anyone |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:54 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. A party of one would get the job done! |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
24. My favorite fail patrol member |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:56 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Well, I just found out I'm a 'cheerleader for the insurance cartel' |
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frylock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:46 PM Response to Reply #24 |
79. and his faithful sidekick |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #24 |
89. Pot meet kettle |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 06:11 PM Response to Reply #18 |
84. "Left-wing teabag" for 100 points! Anyone can play DLC talking point bingo! |
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geek tragedy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. So says someone beating up last decade's bogeyman. |
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rudy23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 12:08 PM Response to Reply #85 |
101. What position does Rahm Emanuel hold in the White House? |
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LakeSamish706 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
23. I'm truly sorry to say that I agree with you.... Many had such great hope only to find that... |
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HALO141 (425 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #23 |
59. Was the really a surprise? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:56 AM Response to Original message |
25. They'll keep ignoring the left as long as we hold our noses and settle for "not as bad". |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:57 AM Response to Reply #25 |
28. Yeah, we should totally do like France and vote for the REAL progressive. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:02 PM Response to Reply #28 |
32. You prefer triangulation to the right? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. I don't think I owe it to anyone but myself. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #37 |
41. That's the problem for me. My conscience. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:28 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Having more Dems than Repukes means we have Dems in charge of committees. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Dems like Max Baucus? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Yeah Dems like Max Baucus. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 02:00 PM Response to Reply #43 |
71. Of course not. But, that's a false dillema. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. You don't get to pass. No matter what you do, one side will be in charge. |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 02:17 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. Bottle A or Bottle B. I always vote, but sometimes, it's for bottle C. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:02 PM Response to Reply #73 |
75. Yeah, we've discussed this before. :) |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. Well, sometimes I have to disagree with an agreeable person.:) |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #28 |
58. Oddly enough, Sarkozy would be leftist Democrat in this country |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:54 PM Response to Reply #58 |
61. Yeah but we're in this country. |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. There have to be better choices for the electorate to make better choices |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #67 |
69. People who have Blue Dogs should try to primary them. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:04 PM Response to Reply #25 |
35. I agree. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:57 AM Response to Original message |
27. Actually, it's independents who make or break a party. |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:58 AM Response to Reply #27 |
29. Actual knowledge of politics is not welcome here. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:59 AM Response to Reply #29 |
30. I know. I know. Facts are inconvenient. |
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Richardo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. ... |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:14 PM Response to Reply #31 |
38. ... |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:06 PM Response to Reply #27 |
36. Policy successes or failue make or break a party. |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #36 |
57. Exactly! |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:45 PM Response to Reply #27 |
56. Are the independents the ones manning phone banks and going door-to-door? |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #56 |
82. delete |
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Faryn Balyncd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:03 PM Response to Original message |
34. K&R--It's not only the base: When MIDDLE CLASS INDEPENDENTS get their inflated premiums & realize... |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
40. +1 n/t |
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inna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 07:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
87. Thank you! |
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leftstreet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 02:46 AM Response to Reply #34 |
95. +1 |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:22 PM Response to Original message |
39. Its those GOPiacs who fucked up....not the Dems who enjoy over all support |
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azmouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
42. Check back in 7 years when Obama is finishing his second term. |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:29 PM Response to Reply #42 |
44. Let's get through 2010 |
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TheCowsCameHome (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
45. Step by step they are. |
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LeftinOH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
48. -and the base will vote Republican instead? Disappointments aside, some of us |
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AllentownJake (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 02:28 PM Response to Reply #48 |
74. No they just don't vote |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 03:04 PM Response to Reply #74 |
76. Or will find thrid parties that better represent their values |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:34 PM Response to Original message |
49. If the Dems lose in 2010, teabaggers will win. If you want to sit home, knock yourself out |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
60. Dems have time to turn around. Burden's on them. |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 01:03 PM Response to Reply #49 |
66. go team- ra ra- us against the teabaggers-what a load of shit |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 11:36 AM Response to Reply #66 |
96. I am getting pretty sick of DU'ers calling each other names - The point is to elect more and better |
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PVnRT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 01:10 PM Response to Reply #49 |
68. So, if the teabaggers are equivalent to the "loony left" for the Democrats, |
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emulatorloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 11:38 AM Response to Reply #68 |
99. Where did I advocate "deflating the left wing" - the point is to elect more and better Dems |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:40 PM Response to Original message |
52. Gotta keep the two name brand party ruse alive and active or the true nature of the Game is revealed |
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Arkana (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
53. ABSOLUTELY. |
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treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 12:58 PM Response to Original message |
63. The opposite is true |
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natrat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 01:01 PM Response to Original message |
65. they are corrupt and are controlled by the same scum who controll the thugs |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
70. Agree on 2010, but Obama will be reelected anyways. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 04:15 PM Response to Original message |
80. You get in F in Political Science 101. Politics is about capturing the center. |
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AzNick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #80 |
83. And the center voted for progress |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 04:18 PM Response to Original message |
81. Progessives are not the dem base. |
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JoeyT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 07:41 PM Response to Reply #81 |
86. I agree. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
88. What is all this liberal divisiveness bullshit about? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 11:37 AM Response to Reply #88 |
98. you sure |
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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 07:56 PM Response to Original message |
91. It's too late |
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PHIMG (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 10:43 PM Response to Original message |
92. Obama = Hoover |
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janedum (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
93. It's the economy stupid! |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 11:36 AM Response to Original message |
97. indeed... |
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Kaleva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
100. Will it be liberal or moderate/Blue Dog Dems who lose? |
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spanone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
102. have you forgotten the previous eight years? cheney, rumsfeld et al. democrats haven't. |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-12-09 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
103. That's the GOP plan for our party, even as they shoot themselves in the foot |
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