Bonn1997
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Mon Nov-16-09 06:00 PM
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Poll question: Should the alleged 9/11 terrorists be tried in NYC? |
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Should the alleged 9/11 terrorists be tried in NYC just a few blocks from the 9/11 attacks?
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Mon Nov-16-09 06:01 PM
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1. Yes, what you said - and perhaps we will really find out what happened that day |
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Mon Nov-16-09 06:01 PM
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Plus, it's the law of the land.
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Mon Nov-16-09 06:04 PM
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3. What do you mean by "law of the land"? A change of venue is allowed if jurrors in one location are |
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Mon Nov-16-09 06:06 PM
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4. Sure, change of venue can be ordered |
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but it still has to be fairly close to the scene of the crime. I trust in my fellow Americans to be an impartial jury. From what I've seen, they take their duty very, very seriously. Who in this country wasn't affected by this crime?
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Mon Nov-16-09 06:28 PM
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9. Everyone was affected but surely the people a few blocks away were more affected. I assume |
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they lived in more constant fear than people in small suburb of Wyoming, for example. I'm playing Devil's advocate. I hadn't really made my mind up on the issue and wanted to see what others thought. Based on the poll results so far, my thoughts are probably quite far-fetched!
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Tue Nov-17-09 09:30 AM
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18. I understand, however, the Constitution is quite clear |
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Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence. **** That said, he could be moved to Virginia if the defense so chooses and the judge agrees.
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Tue Nov-17-09 10:28 AM
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19. "That said, he could be moved to Virginia..." That was my entire point! The trial could be moved and |
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I'm asking about whether it should be. I don't get why people think they need to explain the constitution to me when nothing I said contradicted the constitution.
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Tue Nov-17-09 12:53 PM
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22. I'm sorry if I offended you |
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I didn't mean to. I had been arguing with hubby about this very topic and it spilled over to you. I apologize. :hug:
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Tue Nov-17-09 02:55 PM
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23. No problem. Lots of people kept saying the same thing to me. I guess I could have made the initial |
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poll clearer by mentioning the idea of a change of venue. Oh well. I appreciate how you replied just now though. The standard on message boards seems to be for insults to escalate in reply after reply until the moderator deletes messages and locks threads!
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Tue Nov-17-09 04:02 PM
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24. I don't believe in behaving that way |
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If I've done something wrong, I'll admit it and apologize to the offended party (unless it's a Pube). I think even message boards should be civil.
Have one on me: :toast:
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Mon Nov-16-09 06:11 PM
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5. Has it been judicially determined that flying airplanes into buildings was an "act of war"? |
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And judicially determined that terrorists can be equated with a sovereign nation instead of a collection of disenfranchised citizens from several countries?
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Mon Nov-16-09 06:22 PM
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6. Yes - no place better. nt |
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Mon Nov-16-09 06:25 PM
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7. The "impartial" argument is crap. |
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I find that people who weren't here are much more heated and emotional about it. It's all theatre to them. We're much more matter of fact about it.
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Mon Nov-16-09 06:26 PM
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8. Anyone remember the Constitution? |
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Amendment VI
In all criminal prosecutions, the accused shall enjoy the right to a speedy and public trial, by an impartial jury of the State and district wherein the crime shall have been committed, which district shall have been previously ascertained by law, and to be informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the Assistance of Counsel for his defence.
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Mon Nov-16-09 06:29 PM
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Mon Nov-16-09 06:35 PM
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6 going on 7 years since "Arrest" in March 2003. Speedy enough? We will see how the rest plays out.
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Mon Nov-16-09 06:43 PM
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(I also find it interesting that the word "speedy" is enshrined in the Constitution!)
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Mon Nov-16-09 06:39 PM
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Mon Nov-16-09 06:31 PM
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11. Although make sure in the majority opinion, it is stated that this should set no precedent |
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Otherwise, this will have a way of biting your ass...
One quick note though : Bush v Gore was stated to not set a precedent...
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Mon Nov-16-09 06:38 PM
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13. Yes, but not for that reason... |
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The world needs to see the court proceedings.
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Mon Nov-16-09 06:46 PM
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16. it is the law........ |
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Tue Nov-17-09 10:30 AM
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20. Yes, but not for the OP's stated purpose |
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Tue Nov-17-09 10:33 AM
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21. no...we were not attacked by a country...but it was an act of war |
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