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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:46 PM
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So, if I'm understanding the GOP's argument on CSPAN2 right now...
Giving people a public option will drive up premiums. And requiring insurance companies to insure everyone will drive up premiums. And regulating the insurance industry will drive up premiums. And talking about insurance companies will drive up premiums. And suggesting that some members of Congress have inappropriately cozy ties to the insurance industry will drive up premiums.

Looks like anything other than massive tax breaks and comprehensive tort reform (to protect the insurance industry) will drive up premiums.


Is that it, in a nutshell?
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:48 PM
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1. So we should make it illegal for them to raise premiums. n/t
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:52 PM
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3. Bingo! That's what we should do. Better than that, we should tell them
exactly what they can charge for each adult and each child. If they don't like it, then they can get out of the business of health care so we can get actual national health care instead.
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wryter2000 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:52 PM
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2. Haven't you heard?
Trying KSM in New York will drive up premiums. Or was that taxes? :crazy:
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:52 PM
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4. By Jove, I think you've got it. Republican insanity in a nutshell. n/t
:dem:

-Laelth
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:53 PM
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5. So, what's driving them now?
Everyone I know just got a massive increase... mine was ONLY 10%... I feel lucky. Its ONLY gone up 10% a year for the past four years... oh, wait, that's 40%+ over the past four years... they don't expect us to be able to do math.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:56 PM
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7. And the 40% is just for the premiums
When my company did that to us, we also wound up with larger copays, bigger deductibles, and vastly increased coinsurance amount, and substantially more burdensome out of pocket costs.

So the actual, practical increase was somewhere on the order of 150% over that same period.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 06:20 PM
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9. Ugh...
You're right, of course. My copays went up too...
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Nite Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 05:56 PM
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6. You forgot the selling
insurance across state lines (so as to bypass state regs), that is one that will lower prices too.
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Orrex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-20-09 06:00 PM
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8. Good point! We need the Congress to waive its power to regulate interstate commerce
Hell, let's get rid of the power to regulate anything at all. Then a prosperous economic utopia will follow and last 10,000 years.
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