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Archae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:25 PM Original message |
Man communicating after 23 years in coma is a hoax. |
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geckosfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
1. Pretty sick stuff. |
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mudplanet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 12:06 AM Response to Reply #1 |
53. If he is concsious I'd expect the first words he'd communicate would |
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aint_no_life_nowhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
2. Have they tried using another facilitator, a disinterested party? |
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Archae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. It's easy to test facilitated communication. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. Here's the touch screen he is using. |
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tekisui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:20 PM Response to Reply #9 |
32. That was my first thought when I heard this story. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:28 PM Response to Reply #32 |
49. I wonder if the family is in on the scam, or are they being scammed? |
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Archae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 07:10 AM Response to Reply #49 |
57. I think they out of false hope are beng scammed. |
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alfredo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 11:11 AM Response to Reply #57 |
60. I saw on wired.com that they believe it is a scam. |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:33 PM Response to Original message |
3. Which part is a hoax, is Rom Houben a real human, was he in a coma, |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. They're now saying he's locked in. |
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Warpy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:17 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. Locked in syndrome is very real |
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arthritisR_US (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:07 PM Response to Reply #3 |
18. his communicating is the hoax. In double blind studies facilitated |
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Liquorice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:55 PM Response to Reply #18 |
51. A lot of them aren't authentic, but at least one case was proven in a court of law. |
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Bolo Boffin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:36 PM Response to Original message |
5. I've heard and read that tests show the cerebral cortex is still functioning |
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Archae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 07:12 AM Response to Reply #5 |
58. The syndrome can be real. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
7. When I read this, I thought of this post... |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
11. 100% correct |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
16. I can't disagree with that assessment. nt |
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GMA (467 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:40 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. Another thoughtful response... |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:52 PM Response to Reply #11 |
43. What the fucking fuck is this fucking shit? |
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malaise (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. Like the Pope? n/t |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:56 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Of course. Have you seen his shoes? nt |
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lightningandsnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Did you just refer to human beings as veggies? |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:51 PM Response to Reply #7 |
42. Yes the evil Catholic Church has planned this all out to interfere with American Politics |
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merh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:54 PM Response to Reply #7 |
46. If the Catholic Church really cared about the directives you would |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:42 PM Response to Original message |
8. And what about the brain scan that says different? |
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Archae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #8 |
12. A brain scan can show a guy is lucid... |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
17. Not necessarily. The scan likely shows that his brain is receiving blood supply... |
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baldguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:46 PM Response to Reply #12 |
36. IIRC Terry Schiavo's brain scan DID NOT show an active, functioning brain. |
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druidity33 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
10. Is that the Amazing Randi? |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:54 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. It is diagnosing remotely |
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Orrex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:18 AM Response to Reply #13 |
55. Brain imaging supports their claims that the man may retain some form of consciousness |
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Archae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. Damn right it is. |
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vogonity (283 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 06:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Facilitated Communication has been thoroughly discredited |
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arthritisR_US (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
19. I worked with an organization utilizing FC and it's absolute bunk IMHO. n/t |
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mariawr (171 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 11:29 AM Response to Reply #19 |
61. FC allows people w/ autism to communicate.... |
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arthritisR_US (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 05:11 PM Response to Reply #61 |
63. has Sue been in any double blind studies? n/t |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #10 |
40. I thought he was dead? nt |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
22. I wondered what the heck was up with that story. K&R |
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bergie321 (797 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:34 PM Response to Original message |
23. Easy Test |
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Archae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:36 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Scientific testers have done just that. |
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Celebration (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 07:51 AM Response to Reply #24 |
59. Have they tried it with THIS patient? n/t |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:38 PM Response to Original message |
25. Watch video here: |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:43 PM Response to Reply #25 |
27. He types faster than I do with my eyes OPEN. |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 10:38 PM Response to Reply #25 |
50. thanks for that video link - tells the complete story there - sad sad |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:43 PM Response to Original message |
28. I'm not sure it's a hoax |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:48 PM Response to Reply #28 |
38. And when his eyes are closed? |
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HughMoran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:53 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Didn't see that |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:58 PM Response to Reply #44 |
48. I posted a link to it here |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:45 PM Response to Original message |
29. The Doctor is Ouija Board Certified |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
30. I guess all the doctors involved are in the hoax too |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:23 AM Response to Reply #30 |
56. If the doctor saw on his brain scan that he has brain function |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #56 |
62. So the doctors involved wouldn't notice the typing? |
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bbinacan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:19 PM Response to Original message |
31. I'm amazed at the number |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
33. Oh BS. |
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Junkdrawer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:24 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. . |
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Archae (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 08:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
35. Fine, Put her facilitated communicator to the test. |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:50 PM Response to Reply #33 |
41. Sorry, your story is weak |
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anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:47 PM Response to Original message |
37. So he's still in a coma or what? Skeptics have jumped on to one part of the story |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 09:49 PM Response to Reply #37 |
39. Only people with access to his medical records can know that. nt |
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Stephanie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-24-09 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
52. Easier way to prove it's a hoax: |
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LisaL (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-25-09 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
54. He is supposedly communicating in these perfect sentences, |
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